Anonymous #1 1w

No airport lowered standards for pilots…if you see a black person working a high end job and think “DEI hire they aren’t qualified” because they are black u are racist💀

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

It was in response to an announced initiative for quotas. He was arguing against the concept of quotas. I don’t need to defend this argument any further, it’s been done countless times. If you wanted the truth you’d take it

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Anonymous #1 1w

Sooo he had to make up a scenario tha just doesn’t happen…

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

That*

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Anonymous #1 1w

Even still, what’s wrong with companies having quotas to hire ppl from underrepresented communities to better represent them?

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

He used a hypothetical in the immediate aftermath of a viral controversial racial quota… he was a political commentator, why wouldn’t he talk about it?

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

And his answer to your question is the entire argument you just quoted. Come on man

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Anonymous #1 1w

Because it doesn’t fucking happen. And it wasn’t a hypothetical 😭 bro said if he sees a black pilot he’s gonna wonder if he’s qualified. DEI isn’t taking unqualified ppl and giving them jobs. And DEI isn’t always racial.

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Anonymous #1 1w

So I ask again, what’s wrong with companies having quotas to hire qualified ppl of underrepresented communities? Instead of hiring overrepresented communities?

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Holy shit dude. Why do you talk in specifics when you feel like it and then I explain it to you in the simplest terms possible and you talk in general terms again. THIS scenario was a RACIAL company initiative. He spoke about it in its IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH before anything was supposed to have taken effect. He was arguing why racial quotas are bad. I really don’t believe you’re this dense by accident

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Anonymous #1 1w

He spoke about something that was rumored and never happened. He thought airports were hiring ppl solely based on their race. Hence why the airport was brought up.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Now I ask once again, what’s wrong with having quotas to hire ppl of underrepresented communities?

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

He brought up the scenario because an AIRLINE ANNOUNCED A RACE QUOTE INITIATIVE

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Anonymous #1 1w

That never happened dude😭

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

I’ll spell out exact what you quoted because apparently you are this dense. When race has nothing to do with qualifications and you prioritize hiring a certain race, you have to compromise on quality. Because if it was truly the best coming out on top it would happen naturally without quotas

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Having quotas only feeds doubt amongst consumers because factors other than skill and qualifications were invilved

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Anonymous #1 1w

Ur saying im being dense but ur looking and talking in the mirror. No airline did that. Now answer my question

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Anonymous #1 1w

U realize they aren’t hiring unqualified ppl…right? Hence why I said QUALIFIED.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

United Airlines and American Airlines both announced initiatives to hire a minimum percentage of certain races. Then abandoned it after backlash. You just did the classic “It’s not happening but even if it was it’s good”

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Why even ask for the other perspective if you just flat out ignore it?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Oh no! An airline wants to represent underrepresented communities who are qualified to do the job how dare they😭

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yall imply they lower qualifications. They are not😭 u have to be just a qualified. How dare airlines hire ppl who were historically barred from working in that line of work. Yall are dumb asf

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

YOURE NOT LISTENING!! Stop asking questions you don’t listen to the answer. When race becomes a deciding factor, it means qualifications inherently become less. If you have 100% qualification based and you decide to make it 5% race based… that now makes it 95% qualification based.

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Anonymous #1 1w

No…it doesn’t. Ur implying that because a person is of a specific race they are less qualified. Do u not see how that’s racist and inaccurate?

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Anonymous #1 1w

And u never answered my question and it’s because there is no problem with hiring a person of an underrepresented community who’s qualified. Ur the only person bringing race into this issue when I said at the very beginning, DEI isn’t just a racial or ethnic thing. Ppl like u ONLY focus on race😭

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Bro… you’re not listening. It has nothing to do with their race. If they made a quota for a minimum amount of white people it would be the same problem. It doesn’t matter what the race is, the minute you make RACE ITSELF a factor in hiring (5%) it requires you lower the weight of qualifications (95%). What race it is doesn’t matter, it’s the fact that race is factored in. Race does not make someone fly a plane better than anyone else. It does not make them worse.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

The best pilot will get the job so long as race is not a factor in hiring

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Anonymous #1 1w

“It has nothing to do with race but everything to do with race” dude what?😭😭

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Stop going general “DEI isn’t this, isn’t that” This is a SPECIFIC case of SPECIFIC AIRLINES planning to implement a RACIAL QUOTA. No one is talking about all that other crap rn

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Anonymous #1 1w

Correct. So why make up a scenario that never happens? Even with context it’s racist for Kirk to even say that. Ur once again assuming that because a person is of a specific race they aren’t qualified and u assume they are a DEI hire

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Holy shit, I can’t do this anymore… please just read. I can’t write anything else without repeating myself. You’ve ignored every point you’ve asked me to make

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Anonymous #1 1w

Airlines cannot have racial quotas. I bring up everything else because all yall focus on is DEI being a racial or gendered thing. Yall only see DEI as black and white(pun not intended)

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Anonymous #1 1w

U didn’t make any fucking points and u didn’t answer my fucking question.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

He spoke about it in the immediate aftermath of the announcement. No shit it didn’t happen a year later, Charlie didn’t know that the day he spoke about it

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

I answered your question like 4 times

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Anonymous #1 1w

U kept bringing up unqualified ppl. I said “what’s the problem with wanting to represent qualified ppl of an underrepresented community” U didn’t answer that. U kept bringing RACE into it. My question has nothing to do with race or racial quotas

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Making a specific effort to “Hire underrepresented people” IS a racial quota dog. They are the same thing. How does hiring based on race have nothing to do with race??

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Anonymous #1 1w

No they are not..u can’t be this fucking dumb😭 underrepresented isn’t always a racial thing. Underrepresented can be religious, based on gender, state, country, if u live in an urban or rural area, the type of school u went to, ect. But thanks for proving my point! All yall think about is race :)

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Jfc, we are talking about a specific example that was race. You cited a comment he made ABOUT race in response to a RACIAL quota. It’s not a gotcha when you start talking about something different when I’ve been talking about the same thing the entire time

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Anonymous #1 1w

And like I said, no airline has implemented a racial quota. It was alleged. And some said they would like to hire more women of color because they’re underrepresented but it never happened 😭

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

And we’re talking about why Charlie said what he did!!! And he said it WHEN THE AIRLINES ANNOUNCED IT. Not a year later when they ultimately canceled the plan. You are acting like Charlie said this today. He did not. He was responding to a plan that announced by the companies themselves. You are simultaneously explaining how the argument is invalid bec it didn’t happen, but then also saying there’s nothing wrong if it did happen. So you don’t actually respond to what I say at all.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

Talking in circles here

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Anonymous #1 1w

I didn’t mention the his black airline quote soo idk what ur talking about 😭i did respond saying no airline lowered qualifications(because they can’t) and said if you see a black picket and assume he’s unqualified because he’s black it’s racist. Pretty cut and clear..and objective.

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Anonymous #1 1w

No airline announced a racial quota. Once again, they said they’d like to hire more women of color because they’re underrepresented so Charlie completely misrepresented what they said👍🏾

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

The OP of this post dude. Why else are we here. No one was ever arguing anything than the topic discussed IN THIS FUCKING THREAD

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Anonymous #1 1w

I’m not OP of the post. I’m here telling u that if u see a black person and assume they’re unqualified ur racist and that no airline stated they were lowering qualifications or implementing racial quotas.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 1w

The airlines gave literal specific percentage points of what races they wanted to hire. He didn’t misrepresent shit. He gave an argument to why racial quotas create distrust in qualifications. I’m done here

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Anonymous #1 1w

That they would like to hire. Doesn’t mean they implemented racial quotas, as I stated, Charlie misrepresented this like he does everything😭

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Anyone who supports Kirk sounds like an idiot but go off king 😘

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Anonymous #1 1w

He did actually say that. He said ‘if I see a black pilot I’m going to assume he’s less qualified’. What did I misrepresent? That he was making a larger point about DEI? If anyone was misconstruing anything it was him not understanding what DEI actually is.

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I don’t disagree with what you said. Does that contradict what I said?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Lol we’ve had a severe pilot shortage for several years now, I promise you NO airline is doing shit about quotas or cutting requirements/“pushing you through” to become a commercial pilot if you’re not white. Your imaginary topic to be angry about sounds like a shittier Hunger Games

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