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justinian

If you disagree with this, you are doing a version of “socialism is when the government does stuff” except for its“fascism is when racism.” Fascism was invented in Italy in the early 1900s, formed from a totally different context than Americanism.

justinian

No Patrick, America has not always been inherently fascist.
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Anonymous 16w

i could see why someone would say that though, given the nationalism, racial and socioeconomic hierarchy, & harsher punishments against non whites

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Anonymous 16w

I apologize for being arrogant and talking like an asshole. I am trying to be better about it and I am yet to get there. No excuses its just a personality flaw I am working on.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

they would be wrong

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Anonymous 16w

Honest question. How would you feel if I said Revolutionary France in the 1790s was Marxist-Leninist?

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 16w

since when does fascism only exist in one historical context? the term itself is not limited to that like marxism-leninism is

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

yes it is limited like that

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Anonymous 16w

You’re right about the Indigenous American genocide inspiring Hitler. You’re right that anti-Black racism was and is toleration and authoritarian. I think the part that you are missing is that fascism is more than just racism and nationalism, it is a philosophy about corporate and state power devoting ultimate service to a highly centralized state. The state is everything in fascism, even above race. Id say America is to fascism what Revolutionary France is to later schools of Communism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

I would argue that the 1700s didn’t even have the material conditions necessary for fascism. That doesn’t mean the US wasn’t very racist and expansionist, it just means that the US was not and could not have been that particular system of government. It would be like saying Revolutionary France was Leninist. Sure, there are parallels and even some connections through inspiration, but those are still different systems in different material conditions.

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 16w

I am right about this one though

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 16w

That makes sense but I guess I don’t see the need to disagree so heavily if you can see that there are parallels

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Anonymous replying to -> justinian 16w

Fair, i think a lot of us are working on similar things especially when it comes to political discourse on the internet

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

I got a little carried away

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

<3

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