Anonymous #1 3w

That’s all liberals can do, cancel people :P

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

can i ask what is your solution to everything

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Anonymous #1 3w

and is it every american’s head being on a spike?

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Anonymous #1 3w

At the very least, allow third parties in presidential debates and some kind of parliamentary system with multiple parties. This would be an actual representative democracy. Clearly, pushing dems left isn’t working.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Democrats are incentivized to lose because they get more donation $ when they aren’t in power and have a crisis to act like they’ll help solve.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

Is there data to support this or just vibes? Why wouldn’t republicans do the same?

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

Why would donations matter if they don’t turn into political power. Do you think democrats just like funding commercials for fun. Unless you’re claiming there’s mass campaign finance fraud that no one is catching ?

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Anonymous OP 3w

Trump’s first term. Money poured in for democratic races.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

I like how your acting like totally reforming our system is a reasonable ask, just bc you have unpopular political opinions.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

Lmao so you think they purposefully wasted money what’s the bad incentive lol?

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

I don’t get it. They won that year, didn’t they? And took back 3 seats?

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Anonymous blue__wave 3w

we are where we are right now due to the current system...

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Anonymous #4 3w

Yeah no shit the disagreement is what’s wrong with the system.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I think there are serious things wrong with American media and how Americans consume information. I don’t think the problem is the lack of presidential debates Jill Stein has been invited to.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3w

Surely Jill Stein won’t light millions of dollars on fire this time! (she has the past 3 times)

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Anonymous blue__wave 3w

literally whats the harm then

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Anonymous #4 3w

What’s the harm in what?

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Anonymous OP 3w

If wasting money on elections is this huge issue I would love to talk about third parties.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3w

having 3rd party candidates at the presidential debate

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Anonymous #4 3w

I’m not claiming it’s harmful I’m claiming it’s not a serious issue, nor is it causing the current fascism we’re seeing. If people want to have a debate with Jill stein I don’t care, go for it.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I’d be fine with it but I don’t expect any major political party to go for it. You’ll have to pressure the debate hosts to do it

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Anonymous OP 3w

And why would the major parties be against allowing other options onstage? Makes you wonder!

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

Bc it would be a waste of time bc they won’t get a single electoral vote and they’ll take up talking time for candidates people are actually interested in.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3w

Is that supposed to be a gotcha? If they could wipe every other party off the face of the earth they would in a heartbeat. That’s like asking one sports team why they don’t want the refs to always rule in their favor

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Anonymous OP 3w

i dont think this analogy is doing what you think it is

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Anonymous #4 3w

Each entity is just there to maximize its own gain. It doesn’t care about the other entities. The others are hostile to it

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Anonymous OP 3w

I don’t think parties usually run televised debates that’s usually media companies. If a third party candidate was super popular the media companies would want them in the debate bc they would want to maximize viewership.

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Anonymous OP 3w

exactly and we are being cucked

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Anonymous blue__wave 3w

I mentioned that earlier. If you can pressure the TV companies or host your own debate you’ll be fine. But sometimes, candidates barely even want to show up to 1v1 debates anymore either

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Anonymous OP 3w

Or I guess the cpd also organizes debates but I don’t think they were used much in 2024 and if a third party started gaining momentum then the two big parties would be forced to address them regardless. That would be a bad look if they didn’t. That’s all to say that if third parties want to be in big national debates they should be more popular.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah you’re mostly correct I’m just addressing everyone here bc I feel like everyone is making weird statements about how the incentives would work.

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