Anonymous landtrust 4w

I’m glad we’re still doing the maga thing.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Youre the MAGA lol

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Anonymous #2 4w

Bc I said dictators dying is good now I’m a Nazi?

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Yeah I’m not meat riding either, the war is stupid and Khamenei was in his fucking 80s man, could’ve given it a couple months and he would’ve just died anyways.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

yeah like you can be anti US imperialism and also acknowledge that the ayatollah kind of sucks really bad. unless OP’s position is actually that Iran’s current govt is totally fine

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

You’re literally stealing a Donald Trump phrase so you don’t have to engage with what I’m saying. That’s more maga than anything I’ve ever done.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

You’re joining the elites whether you like it or not with that take you made

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Don’t care. You DINOs should be banned from the party

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Anonymous #5 4w

I don’t think you can endorse the killing of someone, and do so every fucking time, while also simultaneously condemning the pattern of how those people got killed. It’s literally the “I don’t think Iraq is a good idea, but you gotta admit Saddam’s pretty bad” type of spineless “anti-imperialism” that you fucking libs are always on

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

like. pretty clearly Iran’s regime is authoritarian. if ur really antifascist u shouldn’t be defending the ayatollah. that said, if ur antifascist u also shouldn’t be cheering mostly unprovoked regime change campaigns from the west.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Ok I’m not cheering?

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Anonymous #2 4w

What lol bc I said the Iran war was bad?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

it’s not the same thing bc at the end of the day, the political action I’m doing is anti-imperialist. the main thing I’m saying is the war is bad. But if there’s *negative reaction* to saying the Iranian regime is bad, or people insinuating that the human rights abuses there aren’t bad, that actually makes it crucial to point out that the ayatollah isn’t a righteous actor when opposing military action there

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

I’m glad you’re still maga deep down, the only thing that changed were your aesthetics.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Literally I keep saying people claim “the ayatollah has 99% approval”. with all the implications. that shit is crazy and I’m gonna call it out.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Ok I agree with you? I don’t know what your problem is with my post then.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

sorry I don’t mean you specifically, “you” generally. I’m backing you up lmao

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Nah, because your take boils down to “Iran war bad, but…” and everyone knows that words said before “but” are often completely fucking meaningless. You’re equivocating where there is absolutely no need to do so.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I was never MAGA. But the entire reason you think I’m “maga” is because of the phrase I said. Which is aesthetics. But somehow aesthetics is the thing that changed? Have it make sense

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

You’re the last person that should be talking about politics. A pedophile has more legitimacy giving relationship advice than you do on anything politics related

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

usually people aren’t saying “Iran war bad, but dictator bad too” they’re saying “dictator bad, but Iran war worse”. your argument falls apart bc the main point people are making is opposition to the war.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Oh ok thanks lol I can’t tell bc the other people are using wild mental gymnastics idk what point they’re making anymore.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Just go firebomb Walmart or something already, bro. I don’t know how many times lefties need to be slapped down to realize we aren’t interested in the snake oil.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Yeah I’m making a rhetorical criticism, they’re equivocating, which is fucking stupid. Here’s the line on the Iran War, if you wanna actually be oppositional to the current government: “The illegal Israeli-US action in Iran is unequivocally wrong” It’s literally that simple, and you guys can never muster it. Nuance is great in an academic paper, but you libs have nuance-poisoned yourselves to the point of never holding any real positions.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

What am I equivocating? What lol im saying the U.S. shouldn’t be doing this what do you want me to say?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

In your world, the world that sees the people you want in government have power, would you take military action against Israel if they didn’t stop the genocide of the Palestinian people even after they’ve already been sanctioned?

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

Bc the words you’re using aren’t just aesthetics it’s the same strat Trump uses so he never has to respond to criticism.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

I mean good job, you finally said it without having to include the equivocation. That’s all you had to do. Tell your Democrat buddies it’s that simple.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

You’re right if I were talking to the govt. I’m not talking to the government right now, I’m talking to people who in theory should be able to understand nuance. In addition, my goal is never purely to be “oppositional to the govt”, it’s to be morally coherent. frequently those things align. but for me they don’t fully align without making it clear that I’m not pro-regime. I am anti US intervention. And I do not support the ayatollah’s regime. I am saying both things because they are both true

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

Why respond when you are winning? You DINOs are terrified of the incoming 2028 landslide in our primary.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 4w

There’d have to be a multilateral approach to humanitarian intervention against Israel, more similar to the NATO bombings of Serbia when they were committing genocide under Milosevic. Since 9/11 we’ve been a lot fonder of these dumb ass unilateral interventions that never actually help anyone except defense contractors.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

So again, I’m going to ask you the same question. Would you use military force against Israel to stop them from genociding Palestinians?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

as for how that translates into policy positions, I only have power over one of those statements. So it starts and ends with me being against US intervention. but every fucking time this happens I see a chunk of folks simp for murder and torture and oppression just bc they’re nominally opposed to the aims of US imperialism. it’s a big problem. so when I talk to people, I’m gonna encourage the to not do that.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 4w

Yeah, multilateral international force, if it came to that. But it wouldn’t come to that, because Israel is deadass NOTHING without American arms. So if I ran America, I’d just stop giving them a bunch of free weapons, and they’d collapse within a matter of months.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

That’s what I have been saying what lol? The brain rot lmao.

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

What do you even mean who’s supposed to win the primary like a socialist person, like who specifically?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

You think Israel wouldn’t get weapons from Russia or China?

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Anonymous ___joker__ 4w

Russia is tied up in their own war in Ukraine, and not really able to prop up proxies in the Middle East, that’s exactly why Assad fell. And as for China, they’re all about making as many countries happy as possible, if the West abandoned Israel on moral grounds, why would China burn their bridge with every Arab state to be like “the genocide WILL continue” lmao

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

We sanction and embargo Iran, so they get weapons from Russia…as did Venezuela. You already know this though. Thinking that Israel wouldn’t fill their needs somewhere else is incredibly naive.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Assad fell because Turkey and the US backed the forces to do it. Russia does the exact same thing in Africa.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 4w

And you know why we’re fucking with Iran and Venezuela in ways we previously were not? Because that Russian support has fallen off, and we know that.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Yeah. I’m well aware. You’re the one trying to moralize it when you know exactly what is at play here.

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Anonymous blue__wave 4w

What do I have to gain by speaking to your interests?

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Anonymous landtrust 4w

It’s just a question you don’t have to answer ig

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