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Actually the opposite. all gods and religions are demonstrably man-made. While some hypothetical spinozas god that has no measurable force on the material world can’t be disproven, all man made gods and religions can, and have. Metaphysics is horseshit.
I think Gods existence is provable and as thus should be taught in public schools Not as a matter of state established religion but as a matter of fact
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>metaphysics is horseshit >metaphysics is >is Hate to break it to you but thats still statement requires metaphysics

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Also, by what means do you *prove* Ishtar is man made, and not a spirit actually encountered by ancient Sumerians, without just starting with unproven claims yourself?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

If you are going to get into the whole metaphysics nonsense about the “true essence” or meaning of words existing metaphysically in some place outside human neurons, my response will be to just laugh at you 🤭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Because you know that you cant actually ground rational truth in a pure material system, so you have to use smuggery to deflect from that

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

No, because metaphysics is nonsense rendered obsolete by philosophic materialism and modern science lmao. The meaning of those words exists in the firing of physical neurons in your head, not floating around in some metaphysical realm separate from the brain 🤭. It’s so funny when dumb people think they are clever.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Because we can see how cultural mythologies change over time as civilization does, trace myths back to their roots in other older myths. This is all the hallmark of changing human culture.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Metaphysics is always the last resort for a believer, because these are the type of ridiculous mental gymnastics you have to go through to crudely attempt to justify your beliefs with sophistry and magical thinking.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Thank you for conceding, and complimenting me so kindly Since words dont actually mean anything, my atoms have arranged for that to be a concession and compliment Unless they do actually mean something and real communication is actually possible, and not just a phenomenon of electrons

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Real communication is possible if both speakers have a similar thought pattern when hearing the same word, and can construct a meaning that was intended by the speaker. This is just more sophistry and it’s funny you think it’s getting you somewhere 🤭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Which I suppose I dont really suppose, because there isnt such thing as me and I and my, because those are metaphysical categories, which dont exist, but I cant even say they dont exist because there is no such thing as exist because thats a metaphysical category

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

More sophistry, and pretending that these concepts cannot exist independent of the words we’ve assigned them without “metaphysics”. Presupposition and fideism all the way down 🤣. Really sad tbh 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Ok, show me the physics study that proves communication is possible, without pre-supposing that it is

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

Communication is possible because we regularly communicate with each other lmao. This is self evident. No “physics study” is required to understand that humans have evolved to use spoken word to communicate information. Have you ever actually read any literature from materialists against metaphysical nonsense? Or just philbro Christian apologetics blogs? 🤭💀

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Youre wrong about your stance on metaphysics, because we regularly experience metaphysics between each-other lmao. This is self evident. No “physics study” is required to understand that humans use metaphysical principles to gain true knowledge of the world. Have you ever actually read any literature against materialist nonsense? Or just philbro Atheist apologetics blogs? 🤭 💀

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