Anonymous #1 1w

Yes absolutely he is. He was in Epstein island.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Let’s stick to the facts here

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Anonymous #2 1w

The facts spoken by a man who rapes children with seemingly no other evidence?

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Anonymous OP 1w

This was a private email of his, not a place like a courtroom or interview where he would be motivated to lie.

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Anonymous OP 1w

In this country people are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. That being said I know that justice looks very different for the rich and powerful than it does for us. Still, what evidence do we have to say that bill clinton is a pedophile as opposed to a politician who spent time with Jeffery Epstein before his crimes were known as countless other politicians and celebrities have?

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Anonymous #1 1w

In the court of law. The court of public opinion is not bound by those rules lmao. And anyone who associated with Epstein after he was discovered is a pedophile.

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Anonymous #1 1w

We risk watering down the severity of the crimes committed by actual pedophiles if we start acting like every rich person is a straight up pedophile without evidence.

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Anonymous #1 1w

“We’re watering down the crimes of real pedophiles by refusing to trust people who positively interacted with Epstein after it was discovered he ran an international child slavery ring” Wow.

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Anonymous #1 1w

This exactly, and we also break down the barriers of truth with constant spreading of things that aren’t confirmed, which also really damages our ability to target real things (if we have a harder time separating what’s confirmed)

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Anonymous OP 1w

Can you share some evidence to point to bill Clinton spending time with Epstein after it was known that he was a sexual predator then?

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Anonymous #2 1w

“If a person who positively interacted with Epstein after he was found out to be a pedophile isn’t outright confirmed to be a pedophile, you can’t insinuate they’re involved” Holy shit who is paying you lunatics

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Anonymous OP 1w

Talking so certainly about things without heavy confirmation is dangerous with things this serious, and distracts from things that are confirmed

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Anonymous #2 1w

Do you guys do this same bit with Donald Trump?

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Anonymous OP 1w

He basically confirmed it himself, very different

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Anonymous #2 1w

Okay well I guess as long as you don’t do this same bit with Trump whatever.

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Anonymous OP 1w

This is why I’m saying evidence matters. A lack of it in other cases let’s real abusers like trump hide their crimes

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Anonymous #1 1w

Do you have any evidence like I was asking for?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yeah, I just think our media environment is fucked up right now, and it’s important to be a steward of truth and clarity more than ever.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Admittedly no. I was mistaken. It doesn’t really change my belief that bill absolutely participated, but I confess I was under a misunderstanding.

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Anonymous #1 1w

But regardless I don’t trust him on this topic in the slightest. Not on Epstein or on Israel

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Anonymous OP 1w

I agree, he’s probably not got a clean record, in my opinion. But the way we talk about things as facts or not in this day and age is very important.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m sorry you’re gonna struggle to convince me anyone associated with Epstein for longer than a few days isn’t a pedo.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Fair enough, I appreciate you saying as much.

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Anonymous OP 1w

And I don’t trust much or even most of what many politicians say, but I think we should be clear to separate corruption from accusations of raping children; actual pedophilia. There are many ways politicians can have corrupt relationships with people like Epstein that don’t involve them being pedophiles. If we get caught up in conspiracy thinking where all powerful people are pedophiles then it detracts from real issues of corruption and the few who actually are predators.

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