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Hot take: People are too comfortable taking out their justifiable frustrations with the patriarchy out on *individuals* who didn’t put that system in place and who also suffer from it
People are very comfortable taking out their justifiable frustrations with the patriarchy out on trans men. We didn’t make the patriarchy. Those “privileges” that trans men allegedly have are dependent on passing and not saying they’re trans.
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Anonymous 16h

And I’m gonna say it, not every man you meet is a horrible demon and if you treat them all that way regardless of who they are as people you aren’t “crushing the patriarchy”, you’re a bully.

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Anonymous 15h

Saying this as a trans guy who has been treated worse by friends who are women post HRT when I started appearing more masculine, despite being the same person, with the same beliefs and character. Suddenly whenever I disagree with them over the tiniest thing like not liking some earrings at the store it’s “ofc you don’t get it, you’re a man 😒”

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Anonymous 16h

do u guys actually read and engage with any academic feminist theory before saying this stuff or

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16h

one of the the most level headed takes i’ve seen on here

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Saying what? Not to bully people? Am I not allowed to be frustrated that the people I fight for and defend group me in with men who have ACTUALLY done bad things and brush aside who I am as a person because of my gender?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

this “not all men” rhetoric and mindset does nothing but paint women who are cautious or otherwise distrusting of men as an entire class for whatever reason as Delusional & Hysterical Man-Hating Bitches when it’s often instead a reactive method of self-preservation/protection lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

You’re extrapolating a lot out of what I said, which was don’t disregard who you know someone to be because of their gender. I didn’t paint cautious women in that light, and I think you’re accusing me of that is in bad faith, you should look at my other comment where I talk about how I’ve been treated worse by women in my life post transition despite being the same person.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11h

that’s also happened to me after i transitioned and passed as male. i’ve gotten the most grief from women who used to be very kind to me pre-transition, even though nothing about me has changed except for my voice and how i look.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 8h

he literally explained his point about people doing it to delegitimize him based on trivial opinions, which objectively doesn’t make them “cautious” or “distrusting,” it just makes them rude.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1h

I am a cautious, distrusting woman. I am more cautious and distrusting around cis men because that’s typically the demographic I have to be cautious around. But I would never say I hate all men, or take out my frustrations on individual men who may not hold those same ideals that im worried about. I have a little (not so little anymore 🥲) brother whom I love dearly, and I know he’s a good kid. If he’s good, there are other good ones out there.

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