LGBTQIA+ on Sidechat | Hi folks in the comments. The problem here is refusing to date someone bc of their identity. It is not about genitals. Assuming trans people must have a certain set of genitalia or physical features is transphobic. Like exactly what OOP was talking about.

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LGBTQIA+ 2w

Hi folks in the comments. The problem here is refusing to date someone bc of their identity. It is not about genitals. Assuming trans people must have a certain set of genitalia or physical features is transphobic. Like exactly what OOP was talking about.

LGBTQIA+ 2w

I'm done with how normalised it is to be transphobic. There are literally men out there that'll straight up say they're not gonna date you because you're trans like that's WILD!

Anonymous 2w

“Erm I’m a gay man and I don’t like feminine features and meaty vaginas and supple breasts and feminine girly eyes and birthing hips and short womanly stature, so that’s why I don’t like trans men”

Anonymous 2w

There is a difference between only dating ppl with a certain set of genitals and not dating anyone who is trans. There is a difference between assuming all trans people must have x "undesirable" trait, and having specific, defined preferences that tend to exclude many trans people from your dating pool. There is no defined set of characteristics you can provide that fully separates trans people from cis people. People in the comments being transphobic AF. How ironic.

Anonymous 2w

#2 claiming all of what you said automatically applies to all trans people is bigoted. Putting aside the medical inaccuracy (surgery results nowadays produce minimal, often invisible, scarring, helped w/ medical tattooing. And uh, bottom surgery does "work."), the problem is you are reducing a spectrum of trans experiences to one you just happen to personally find icky. Same reason it’s racist to say you don’t date asian men because you're a size queen.

Anonymous 2w

What if someone is also turned off by/not sexually compatible with heavy scarring or genitalia that doesn’t “work” like natal genitalia does? Including people with an ED or vaginismus etc? Is it still transphobic when those things apply to bottom surgery recipients

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Anonymous

#2 2w

I already know I’ll be downvoted but I’m asking this genuinely because those are my preferences and I don’t see how sexual incompatibility makes someone transphobic especially since I’m trans myself

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Anonymous

#2 2w

Idgaf about your preferences but saying trans people’s bottom surgery “doesn’t work” and is heavy scarring is just weird

Anonymous

#1 2w

I mean I’m not really interested in having sex with a guy who has to insert something into his penis to make it hard I can’t change that

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Anonymous

#2 2w

Actually could someone explain to me why I’m not allowed to find certain physical features unattractive? Are people just not allowed to have personal turn offs anymore or

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Anonymous

#2 2w

Becuase you could’ve just not commented. But you did. And you implied that post op trans people’s genitals are scars and don’t work. Do you understand how that sounds like the shit I hear every day from terfs? About how our genitals are a gaping wound, a flesh tube that can’t get hard. Do you understand how that sucks to hear from another trans person??

Anonymous

#1 2w

I commented because I was asking how it would be transphobic if it’s about the genitals and not the identity. Didn’t say that, I said they have heavy scarring (which I know depends on the surgeon) and don’t function the way natal genitals do (which is true), personally I’m not sexually interested in that

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Anonymous

#2 2w

I know it sucks that we don’t have full on genital transplants available yet but the unfortunate reality is that bottom surgery physically can’t function the exact same way the genitals someone is born with would, and I’m attracted to those functions

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Anonymous

#2 2w

You feeling personally offended that not everyone wants to fuck you isn’t transphobia, and someone having a sexual incompatibility also isn’t transphobia, I know it feels good to say that but it’s just coping at this point

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Anonymous

#2 2w

I don’t care who wants to fuck me. I don’t like people being weird about trans people’s genitals

Anonymous

#1 2w

Do you also get this upset when gay men say they’re not attracted to vaginas? Or when lesbians say they’re not attracted to penises? Or when someone says they’re not into overweight people, or blondes, or any other physical trait people generally can’t control

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Anonymous

#2 2w

I get upset when gay men say vaginas are disgusting monster looking flesh wounds. Yeah. And when people say they don’t date overweight wales. That’s how “heavy scarring” and “genitals that don’t work” sounds

Anonymous

#1 2w

Well when you get surgery there’s a high chance you’ll be left with scarring, that’s not an insult that’s a fact. And bottom surgery doesn’t function the same way as natal genitals, that is also a fact. It seems you’re more upset with the limitations of science than you are with others for not being interested in every single body type out there.

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Anonymous

OP 2w

Do ftm penises get hard on their own and produce cum? Do mtf vaginas naturally lubricate? Genuinely curious!

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Anonymous

#2 2w

Because all the discussions I’ve seen surrounding the results of those surgeries say otherwise, but I’m aware I haven’t seen everything in the world. If it’s scientifically possible, I’d be open to to those specific cases

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Anonymous

#2 2w

The fact that it ended here really does confirm it’s about scientific limitations and not actual transphobia tbh

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Anonymous

#2 1w

yes, neovaginas self-lubricate. but again, the arguments you’re making are grounded in an instinctual rejection of trans people grounded in transphobia—not an actual experience with a real human person. this is all post-fact justification for writing off trans people.

Anonymous

#2 1w

or they’re just not interested in continuing to argue with someone who has a clear animus for trans people and a complete lack of curiosity or understanding of the actual results of bottom surgery. you’re reducing trans people to their genitals *and* repeating misinformation about what is actually possible. this is blatant transphobia.

Anonymous

#2 1w

some “ftm penises” can get hard on their own, depending on the specific circumstances or procedures. some people have enough bottom growth that they are able to have metoidioplasty w/ UL + scrotoplasty. they are visually indistinguishable from cis men with a kinda small dick, it does get hard on it’s own because it’s clitoral/penile tissue (analogous structures). you’re ignorant and grasping at straws.