Anonymous just_a_bucket 2w

The initial idea was good. I’m pro Communism, and I’m all for a real Communist state. The Soviet Union was not that though. I think it’s crazy that people here are defending it as if it’s some perfect Communist utopia, and ignoring (or completely outright denying) that it’s responsible for the deaths of millions of civilians

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Anonymous OP 2w

Click through to the post being quoted by this post that I quoted, if you want to see what the OOP (1 on that post) is actually arguing. Their straw man quote post is an attempt to make the OOOP look unrealistic by arguing against points they never even made

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Anonymous #2 2w

anyway, something tells me that if I block the person who 1) quote-posted the pro-communism shitpost to derail with a rant about the Soviet Union and then 2) went out of their way to avoid acknowledging the comments pointing out that the hammer & sickle are associated with communism in general rather than just the Soviets, this post would also disappear

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Anonymous #2 2w

The context matters. When you view the post in question, anyone can see that it’s quoting the other post, and acting as if the claim being made is one that directly opposes the OOOP, when it is not. The OOOP never disagreed or argued against any of that. The OOOPs post is clearly visible when you look at the OOPs post, because it’s a quote.

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Anonymous #2 2w

You’d be assuming wrong then.

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Anonymous #2 2w

What I’m saying here is that the post doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

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Anonymous OP 2w

well no, the prior post was not in fact clearly visible to me because the person who posted it had me blocked. but lemme test this theory of mine and (if possible afterwards) get back to you

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Anonymous #2 2w

Go ahead bro 💀

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Anonymous #2 2w

Just because you can’t see a post doesn’t change the fact that every other person can see the quoted post and all the context

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Anonymous #2 2w

Not to mention that the top comment under the post I quoted is this pro Stalin and Mao, straw man shit. It’s disingenuous to argue people don’t know what they’re upvoting here

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Anonymous OP 2w

okay, confirmed, my presumption was wrong. that’s on me, glad you were being honest but yeah, now that I see the post that was being quoted to begin with, I do get where you’re coming from. I can agree that it feels a bit disingenuous for this person to have framed the points they raised as if they were conclusively shutting down all valid criticism of the Soviets

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Anonymous OP 2w

anyone who has that person blocked or is blocked by that person can also not see their post, so no, that’s definitely not “every other person”. you really don’t have to be hostile about the reality that some people don’t all have access to viewing the same context

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Anonymous OP 2w

a whole lot of people upvote or downvote posts without looking at the replies first, too. again, you don’t need to take that part in bad faith

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Anonymous #2 2w

Thank you. I’m sorry for coming at you so aggressively. I just feel like I’m going crazy seeing this person in multiple comment sections shutting down any criticisms of the Soviet Union by saying its western propaganda and calling us all anti communist, then turning around and posting vague stuff like this to make the quoted posts seem anti communist and unreasonable. I can see why my post and comments looked out there without the context of the original quoted post

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Anonymous #2 2w

I’m just assuming that most of the 60 people who viewed it don’t have that person blocked. About the replies, that true that people don’t always look at them, but it being the top reply shows that a non inconsequential number of people who upvoted did support that point

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Anonymous #2 2w

I’m sorry for being hostile though

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Anonymous OP 2w

🤝 my replies to you had been snarky right off the bat, so I’m sorry for that too. major respect for your willingness to shift the tone & level with me in earnest and you’re right that it’s unlikely All the upvoters didn’t see the original post, I just don’t think it’s disingenuous to claim that the majority were reacting to what was being said in the quote itself. but yeah, the context is of course relevant, + I don’t see eye-to-eye with that person’s fanatic defense of the Soviet Union either

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Anonymous OP 2w

Tbh landlords are bad :)

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 2w

True? That doesn’t make the Soviet Union good?

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Anonymous just_a_bucket 2w

I support Communism, so I’m not really sure what you’re getting at.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Its not vague stuff. Westerners have a financial interest to discredit the USSR. And the US is already heavily propagandized.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Out of curiosity, what does “I support communism” actually mean? Are you part of a communist party? Do you vote for communists? Do you do Cuba solidarity work? Do you organize with communists?

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Anonymous OP 1w

I feel like so many liberals in the US say “I’m a socialist” or “I support communism” and their politics are just… vote blue no matter who. Lol

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