Anonymous #2 16w

At this point I feel like it would be cathartic for a villain to face the consequences of their actions instead of a forced redemption arc because the fanbase thought they were hot

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Anonymous OP 16w

the fanbase can have a doomed yuri/yaoi/straighty with the character, then

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Anonymous #3 16w

My ace ass wants justice

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Anonymous #4 16w

this

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Anonymous #4 16w

Yeah we’re talking about like the villains committing mass murder. Unambiguously villains to many

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Anonymous #7 16w

But still a hero to some. Look at Israel right now, homie.

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Anonymous OP 16w

I'm writing a villain where the whole theme of her is "being hot and charismatic and fun does not absolve you of being a horrible person in the slightest"

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Anonymous ratdealer 16w

I've already accepted in advance that some people will miss the point and unironically stan her

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Anonymous ratdealer 16w

This sounds so very refreshing

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Anonymous #4 16w

I genuinely don’t get what you’re trying to argue. Like… Voldemort was a hero to the death eaters. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t straight evil and didn’t get what he deserved. Harry Potter was a villain to Voldemort. That doesn’t make him evil.

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Anonymous OP 16w

I adore writing her but I also smile at the thought of the moment years from now when I get to permanently kill her wicked ass in the most ignoble and pathetic way possible

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Anonymous #7 16w

well… that’s only if you use society’s standards of good and evil as an absolute. that’s more of a religious/moral discussion tho lol

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Anonymous #7 16w

He was evil to you. He wasn’t evil to the Death Eaters. A movie written by them would have him as the hero. You are arguing against yourself without even realizing it.

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Anonymous #1 16w

I’m using my own standards. If you want to kill a bunch of people because of their blood status, that’s evil.

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Anonymous #4 16w

I know what I’m arguing. Which is that I want more books where someone is evil without debate, like he is, and suffer justly. Even if a movie painted him as a hero, he would still be evil. It’s that simple.

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Anonymous #7 16w

“I’m using my own standards“ you sound like that kid in recess who would make up new rules in tag

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Anonymous #1 16w

I guess you’re just rage baiting. I honestly, and I mean this with zero sarcasm in the blandest tone imaginable, do not believe there’s anyone in the world dumb enough to not know people can have their own morals

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Anonymous #7 16w

But it isn’t without debate, dumbass. We’re literally debating it right now. To some, Voldemort was a hero. He didn’t capture people to join his army. They’re volunteers.

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Anonymous #4 16w

Nobody’s trying to say villains can’t have followers. There are plenty of bad people I maintain, and I don’t think there’s anything hard to understand about this, that murdering innocent people is enough to consider a book character unambigiously evil

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Anonymous #7 16w

In fact if you go back and read my original comment, you’ll see I said “unambiguously evil to many” not to all. I think I’m done here this conversation is… so dumb

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Anonymous #7 16w

you’re the one who made it dumb. also the first time I’ve ever been called a rage baiter, which is funny because you’re the one who came in and insisted that everyone else play by your arbitrary rules lol

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Anonymous #7 16w

Nothing and no one in the history of time has been evil to all. The fact that you can’t understand that shows that you are actually stupid. The real real for real kind.

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Anonymous #4 16w

That’s not even a little bit what I was saying dawg

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Anonymous #7 16w

You aren’t saying anything, dawg.

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Anonymous #9 16w

We can! I just want more of these. I feel over saturated with the other kind in the last 20 years of media

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Anonymous #4 16w

Ladies, ladies. While I appreciate y’all farming yakarma, can you please take your fight elsewhere?

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I’m making fun of y’all for arguing

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Anonymous OP 16w

I’m making fun of you for thinking yakarma has any meaning whatsoever.

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Anonymous OP 16w

Are you okay??

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Anonymous ratdealer 16w

Huge Light Yagami vibes (bad example bug only one I can think of off the top of my head

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Anonymous #4 16w

Woosh

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Anonymous #10 16w

bug bug bug bug bug

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Anonymous OP 16w

I said the conversation was dumb and got downvoted for it 💔

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Anonymous OP 16w

*whoosh

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Anonymous #3 15w

The ace are only into ONE thing…Justice!

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