
Lmao Im not a zionist more like im not a virtue signaler like you. Im honest enough to say i dont care one way or another for Israel or Palestinians. They been killing each other for centuries, thats their problem. A Palestinian would kill you a white american virtue signaler at the drop of a hat.
Guys youāre wasting your breath. Neither of you will legitimately consider the other personās opinion because you consider it so foreign and ignorant that no person could possibly legitimately hold it. Obviously you are [a mossad agent/hamas operative]. You both like weed. You should both realize that you get an Israeli and a Palestinian high together, theyāre gonna get along. So stop arguing and blaze that shit up.
Tell me youāve never picked up a history book or understand apartheid without telling me. āTheyāve been killing each other for centuriesā yes thats why we white ppl the actually civilized ppl have to take over the land and colonize it i mean it was ours to begin with anyway right? Century after century someoneās gotta justify genocide and colonization by saying that itās their fault bc they fought back against it
You goof, i do know the history thats why i know theyve been at each others throats for the longest. But once again its 2026 i dont care about either of them. They want to live like savages killing each other every few years, thats on them. The rest of the world is trying to get past the age of conquering and pillaging because weāre not in medieval times.
Lol exactly this the part that kills me, Israel is actually more liberal and a good amount more tolerant of the whole live and let live, gay/straight, men/women its all the same now vibes. Palestinians would kill you for what you wore today to the gym or grocery store. But the virtue signalers are bots and their only logic is ābrown people always good/victims, white people always bad/oppressors.
You think this is reverse racism?? if you picked up a history book, you would understand that in 1917 under the Balfour declaration the British gave Zionists what is Palestine well, they divided up the rest of the Middle East amongst themselves and other colonizers. The metal is slowly overcame apart, tied and colonization, and became somewhat more free but never Palestine- when they arrived, they settled more land than even the declaration gave and treated the native Jewish ppl no differently
Then they did any other native. They continued to colonize they continued to expand and did it violently The nakhba happened in 1948 being the most infamous violent massacres and mass deportation of Palestinians. The people at the land were pushed out because of colonization they were slaughtered the only thing the people of that land have ever done is try to defend themselves while Israel had both the British and then the US to back them supply them defend them from justice in international
Courts AND agreements so the Palestinians never stood a chance in any single āpeaceā meeting- forced into less and less land forced to accept the slaughter of children that threw rocks at a tank forced to beg to be able to build wells for their community forced off their ancestral homes. And itāll continue to happen because you guys donāt know your history you guys donāt know how extreme it is You guys were never taught that. A century of history in the Middle East and you donāt know shit on it
#2 is correct there has always been some sort of conflict in the Middle East. Itās very rare if not a short term of peace. Also, yes they would not think twice about killing you. They truly do not care that you support them, if you are not islamic you can either choose to join or die. They also hate the gay community, an actively kill gay people. Itās a weird thing to support them. You can choose to support neither and mind your own business. I choose to do so, both are killing innocent people.
crazy to assume everyone has the exact same agenda. the place w the most amount of child amputees is gaza. babies donāt have political agendas. iām not saying i agree w the politics/ beliefs of either side. but i do think genocide is wrong and this needs to stop. and minding your business is kinda hard when you have to sit back and watch your tax dollars be funneled into it. yes, ppl are dying on both sides, but not proportionally, gaza is completely destroyed and the ppl are being starved.
Itās not crazy when thatās what they do. This is true, but innocent lives are getting taken on each side that is what war is. If it were truly a genocide they would have rolled in and killed everyone. There would be way more deaths than there is now. No this isnāt a not genocide, this is just the causalities of war. Minding my business in the sense that Iām not actively picking a side. There shouldnt be a side to pick, both are killing innocent lives.
Wow the propaganda worked on you fr. Yeah thereās been no peace in the Middle East since the colonization of it, the independence of some and continued involvement from European and western countries like it like that. You canāt steal resources from nations that are steady. As a gay man myself I donāt fuck w pink washing. If you wanna say all Muslims hate gay ppl and women and blah blah blah pick up a book. Muslims hate us no more than Christianās do which is not to say thereās no homophobic
What do you think theyāve been doing? They didnāt kill the Jews in a day, or the native Americans or the slave uprisings. Saying oh well some of them are alive doesnāt negate that itās still an active genocide. And no this didnāt start in October a couple years ago this has AGAIN been going on since 1917 w the Balfour declaration. Also if you read the news youād know that Hamas released their hostages BUT the ppl abducted tortured raped and mutilated by Israel have not! Some have been released
The propaganda? Im not sure what you are even referring to, but the Middle East hasnāt had peace before it even became the current countries. They do, if you want to prove it go to a country where is it is dominated by Islam then go spread the word that you are gay. Iām not even Christian yet I know they donāt actively kill gay people like Islam does.
They have not given back the bodies of all that of died and they still hold onto many hostages of their own. I want you to take really long and hard about the people that were abducted in October are called hostages but the hundreds of people if not thousands that Iāve been abducted by Israel and tortured- the only one of which that actually has evidence of torture- are not called hostages? Youāve gotta do more research instead of watching an ad by Israel saying bullshit.
āMuslims hate us no more than Christians doā š¤ The fact you probably typed that with a straight face. Thats propaganda there, youre a tik tok follow the crowd bot. You can THINK a christian hates you but thats levels away from actually being stoned to death on a muslim main street in their cities in 2026, just for existing. Youre a clown. The average woman in this thread would be killed for what she wore today to the gym and supermarket.
I think you are brainwashed to think that one side is getting actively genocide and that you surround yourself in echo chambers. I also think you donāt know why a genocide is. Itās a war, in war people die, and people starve. Again, both sides are killing innocent people and doing wrong. The Middle East will never know peace until they figure it out themselves, but they choose to have war and violence.
Iāve seen no evidence of a man killed in Palestine in 2026 for being gay. If youāre referring to the case of Ahmad Abu Murkhiyeh from 2022 it was well known after his death that he was blackmailed and thereās multiple instances of Israeli intelligence officers blackmailing gay people to serve their purposes.
Iām a polisci major w a focus on the Middle East and Iām in grad school pursuing my thesis on it. I was there when prof sino was fired and everything in between. This is not a war. This is APRTHEID! International courts have ruled it as such! The South Africans who have survived apartheid have also called it as such IN THOSE COURTS! I study this because itās my focus- basic education failed to teach me shit on the Middle East so I learned some and as I learned it became more and more egregious
Ways in which middle eastern history has been erased especially following the Gulf War. Do you think Iām brainwashed but you literally live here in America, where you are not taught your history you get Israel ads and youāve been taught that Muslims hate women and gay people and so on. They hate crimes against the Muslim community after 911 were no joke and this kind of rhetoric is exactly why it happened. Palestine doesnāt have allies, weopans or an established government.
Bro wants to see a video of it š¤ clown weāre talking about the region and religion in general but yes palestine too. While youre at it since im lying, and a muslim would never, go book a flight out there and parade your fabulous self in your tightest, skimpiest pride apparel and start respectfully shooting your shot out there to those men and lets do an over or under on how fast youd get violated and murdered out there.
You cannot possibly think that a nation that has been so dehumanized publicly being compared to animals by multiple Israeli officials- a nation that has no weapons, no established government no allies- nation that canāt even fucking build a well without asking for a permit that automatically gets denied by Israel is a member in the war??
Whatās funny is that thereās actually already been multiple volunteers who are queer who have gone to Palestine to help in the genocide. Itās well fucking known and you can see active interviews and multiple articles where queer people talk about being active in helping. Use fucking Google before you say shit you donāt know about. Also, you say stuff like that but I canāt do that here in my Indiana hometown! I canāt even fucking piss in a crop top without someone threatening to kick my teeth in
Why did it take him off kidnapping people for them to get a shred of their people back? Her mass is also not established government. It is an organized group that does not represent all the Palestinians first of all and second of all what resistance group has not had infighting? Iām not happy that people like ahmad abu murkhiyeh were murdered because they became pawns for Israel. Itās not fair to be blackmailed into being a traitor and then killed
Middle eastern history hasnāt been erased youāre just ignorant. You can go all the way back to the crusades and further. The middle east has always been a battle ground, still to this day there been non stop conflict. Youāre brainwashed to believe that. You would think that since America was attacked and there would be paranoia. Pearl Harbor attack causes the same thing when the Japanese attacked. Palestine does have allies.
But I also understand that if you want to beat an oppressive government backed by huge international powers like America you have to do shit you donāt wanna do. Also, you say that like Israel hasnāt been killing their own people does not murder anyone who gets in the way of them getting to Palestine. It happened with the hostages, with whistleblowers and more.
They knew how Israel was gonna react, no matter what because they have reacted at children, throwing stones at a tank by slaughtering them, they reacted to their very existence in 1917 by slaughtering them, any active resistance, any piece of cord like the Oslo accords they have met with hostility and aggression. There was never going to be a free Palestine with them and they have openly said that for over a decade! There is a difference between a war and a genocide
I highly suggest that all of you guys read on Palestine by Noam Chomsky, Palestine and the Arab-Israeli conflict by Charles d smith phd history of the Middle East by William l Cleveland. and my focus which is entirely on US and European relations to the Middle East which lead me to read Dishonest broker : the U.S. role in Israel and Palestine. If you guys just picked up a book and read about this stuff I really feel like you guys would like wake up a little
First the land would be fully occupied, meaning that the whole area would have been under their control. They would be actively rounding people up and killing them in the streets. Israel does have the man power and the technology to do so, but they havenāt. There is no deliberate erasure of Palestinians in Palestine. My point is innocent lives are taken, it can range from small to large. It seems like you are well versed in your major due to you thinking conflict only arose after colonialism.
If it were a genocide they would have used their man power and technology to just march in and slaughter everyone, but they didnāt. The land is not taken and people arenāt getting actively hunted down and killed. My point is that even a large amount of innocent life can die from war, itās inevitable. Iām assuming you think since thereās a lot of death thy equals to genocide.
Oh please. Donāt get me wrong. We know that theyāve had weapons supplied by Israel to Hamas in order to instigate shit but theyāve never given anything. Thatās been more of a major threat, especially when they have their Israeli defense done. You really think that Israel would actually give them a standing chance when they have US back military grade weapons? They can determine missiles Palestinians canāt. Also, youāre an idiot to think that no land has been taken?
Also, thatās literally the same argument that Israel has said is that if they actually wanted to murder everyone, they wouldāve killed them all in an afternoon which is an actual quote. Just because they havenāt murdered everyone and taking all of the land doesnāt mean that they arenāt committing a genocide. Are you really going to dispute the international court? Dispute the actual people who have survived apartheid? genocide doesnāt have to take place in an afternoon to be a genocide.
You should be well-versed in how long a genocide can take living on the land that you do. Imagine living in America and not understanding anything about genocide when the very land that you live on is drowning in the blood of Native Americans. Also, yes, the conflict between Palestine and Israel happens as soon as the colonization started. I mean, I could believe that Zionists had started conflicts before their colonization but I have no evidence of that that I know of
The difference between war is at one is between nations whereas a genocide involves the mass slaughter of a particular ethnic or religious group. If you read about any of the rhetoric that they have around, Palestinian dehumanization comparing them to animals and calling for their mass slaughter based solely on the idea that they are hostile and their savage and they need someone to govern them-not themselves-but not Savage people.
Itās also so easy to say they should just choose peace š„ŗ theyāre both at fault if you actually donāt do any fucking reading on any of the peace agreements. Palestinians have come to the table looking for things as simple as recognition as their own independent people and time and time again Israel has grounded them down into bullshit agreements just threw them to turn around and claim that there is hostility, and they broke the peace so itās completely justified to drop bombs on children.
okay literally this. like im not even gonna lie i used to be transphobic af bc thatās how my parents were.. and all it took was me smoking a blunt w a couple trans girls and i was like damn oh shit Iāve been falling for SO much propaganda these people just wanna get high too like we are the same we are oneš¤
very true like the both sides argument just ignores the imbalance of Israel and Palestine⦠Israel has a strong military backed by the U.S and theyāve been exterminating the Palestinians for generations⦠most of palestines population is children. like itās a genocide and people need to stop saying itās āwarā