
No abolish ICE. Ice is an agency built in the immediate aftermath of 9/11due to the fear and xenophobia. It exists solely to terrorize immigrants. Under this admin it has transformed into a blatant paramilitary organization with little oversight and a wide range of privileges including violating the constitution.
if youāre giving me instructions to move my car and then I attempt to move my car and then you shoot me you are dead ass in the wrong and again too as somebody who knows multiple people in law-enforcement that have been hit with cars. They quite literally said that situation never shouldāve happened because that cop never shouldāve pulled his gun.
yāall have to talk about raping and killing when it comes to immigrants, but letās not forget the sitting president literally has 34 felony counts of sexual assault and yāall voted him into office š everybody needs to admit that rule donāt apply to white people and that you guys are racist point blank. Everyone in America is an immigrant unless you were native American. America was conquered by illegal immigrants from Europe. I donāt recall them filing paperwork they instead
What you just said proves you are uneducated and racist. Yes, thatās why they called the USA a melting pot. Name an area that hasnāt been conquered by another country, tribe, city-state, etc. . I donāt recall any people back then taking land to have papers. Did early humans have papers to cross Bering land bridge? Concepts didnāt exist yet.
This is actually bird brain behavior šš if the United States is a melting pot then what is the issue with immigrants? You love the culture, but they canāt come into the country?? you were right most places were conquered, but in the same breath, a lot of of those countries are now owned by the original people we cannot say the same thing for Native Americans. Africa was conquered by the French and Great Britain yet look at them now they own their country. They pushed out that regime.
Christopher Columbus (white man) came and claimed this country & raped the people and stole their resources yet immigrants are coming in paying taxes, adding to the economy and now you want to kick everyone out because you donāt like the color of their skin. To call me racist is extremely delusional
whenever youāre done hoping trump letās you suck his cock & choking on the dicks of ice agents i encourage you to actually open a book because Iām not gonna argue with somebody who does not know who I am and does not know history in the slightest. Do you want to go band band with my major? Genuinely donāt piss me off I know what the fuck Iām talking about
I will reiterate what I said I quite literally donāt care on any given day. I am more scared of a white man because immigrants actually add to our country. When the process of becoming a US citizen is achievable in less than 25 years by all means we can talk but as far as Iām concerned, I donāt care
North Korea is under a dictatorship. This is literally what America is coming to. Iām well traveled courtesy of my parents. Most of these countries that have taken their land back are still thriving itās harder when you arenāt as big as other nations but the none the less. Whatās your point?
I know thatās my point? So you donāt have the freedom of speech, the freedom to protest, the right to bear arms? Oh really they have? Thatās why the same countries are still there? My point is most of these areas are more dangerous to be in than in the U.S. . In some parts of Africa you have a high chance to be adducted and sold into slavery. Probably a shocker to you but some parts of Africa still practices slavery. Another fact is the sold other Africans into the Atlantic slave trade.
Canāt forget about the countries that have a heavy influence of Islam. Youāre either in their religion or death. Letās not forget the genocide that is happening right now in many parts of Africa of Christian Africans by the hands of Islamic extremist. The rest count is over 50,000 and they are burning churchās down.
and just because something is bad somewhere else doesnāt justify whatās currently happening. iām not shocked about anything youāre telling me because most of itās not true. i grew up in africa and during the slave trade around the time africa was conquered for its resources it took people and sold them. We need to kill the notion that other Africans sold their own people and they quite literally would not have benefited from it. What would they have gotten an exchange for people?
And we keep track of all of this in history books and from different accounts of other people so with all these atrocities happening around the world, why would we continue the same behavior. We are so close to having our own version of the holocaust in 2026! Ethnic cleansing is happening in Gaza.
Iām not justifying anything, my point is you are saying dangerous white people are while ignoring the fact that other races do the same shit. So you want the cover up this historical fact? Money, food, guns, spices, slaves etc. whatever was traded in the Atlantic trade. Slavery is an early practice that humans created.
iām not ignoring that any group can be dangerous, but the most dangerous group to people of color will forever be white people. White people are the oppressors. Most significant historical moments white people are responsible. White people knocked out most of Native Americans because they brought disease. White people are the reason systemic racism is still alive.
youāre going to tell me when I have contact with people my family that are Christians in Africa⦠youāre seeing a video on the Internet that could be from anywhere Iām talking to the people that actually lived there. In the day and age with AI and the way MAGA lack brain cells. Iām not taking anything you say when I can talk to the real people that are there and actually use fucking Google.
so youāre telling me an entire group of people that lived on land longer than Israel establishment are being restricted food, water, building material and aid. they are constantly being bombed. it is ethnic cleansing, which is what the holocaust was to clear out every single Jew in Germany. they are actively wiping them out and to say otherwise is crazy, especially when weāre seeing it in a real time.
so if everyone that is born in America is not an immigrant then why are we deporting them?? immigration is a migration of coming from somewhere else. The establishment of America came from Christopher Columbus, colonizing and illegally immigrating that point still stands and doesnāt change just because you have built generations doesnāt alter the fact.
America came about by people illegally immigranting you are not considered an immigrant in todayās version of it, but it doesnāt change the fact thatās also a form of illegal immigration. The immigrants that you guys hate so much have children and those children are American yet this administration is still deporting them even if itās generationās worth because again you appear to look a certain way.
I feel like thatās just so irrelevant to this convo tho. Like, do I agree with you that someone thatās literally born here is a citizen and shouldnāt be deported?? Of course I do. But itās so weird and wrong to say āweāre all immigrantsā for the sake of the argument. Thatās just so untrue and giving cognitive dissonance.
I acknowledged that , the current due process is terrible when before it was normalized. The term native Americans refers to the original people that were in America. We cannot ignore the fact of that yes generations of other people have come and made America a melting pot but that doesnāt change the origins
Yes you are and you are clearly racially bias. If you even take a little glimpse at history youāll know that you are clearly wrong. Why in all countries that have heavy Islamic religion gay people are executed, women have no rights, and zero religious freedoms? So white people were responsible for Japan invading china and then killing/raping their victims? Oh did they tell them to through babies in sugar grinders?
Are you talking about the same group of people that launched missles into a music feast and then took hostages. Raping the women and torturing them? Those same people? Hamas is killing their own people too. Did you not see the video of Hamas executing Palestinians? Do research on Germany during 1933-1945 and then say that again. If they are actively wiping them out they would have been gone by now. But thatās not happening.
You realize ICE has deported some actual Americans citizens right? Even some veterans. And for the actual illegal immigrants they havenāt actually done much. They have deported around 300,000 to 400,000 illegal immigrants. You know how many came in under Biden? Eight million. The best thing we can do now is tighten up our borders and make the immigration process more picky while deporting actual criminals
iāve never said that other countries havenāt had atrocities. Iām just saying, the common denominator in most atrocities is white people. When somebody called me racist, it didnāt offend me because I know myself and I know Iām not racist if youāre offended by me saying white people are the common denominator thatās because you donāt want to admit the fact that you might be a little racist.
if you wanna argue with me about my comfortability thatās fine but I will never sit in a room with 10 white guys and feel safe. I can sit in a room with 10 immigrants and bond and talk and have a conversation. One thing weāre definitely gonna trauma bound about is experiencing racism primarily by white people
I like that you brought up this point because I actually know somebody that got his throat slit (heās alive) by an African-American man and he does have issues with African-American men. He has never felt comfortable and quite literally does not feel comfortable with his children dating black men because of that one incident
I am well traveled. I go to other countries and I donāt experience the level of racism from white people as I do in America thatās also mainly because of the systems we have in place that are designed to constantly oppress people of color and who created those systems white people. Prison was another way for white people to still have control over Black people.
Yeah I donāt buy that other countries are less racist than America. America is literally the biggest melting pot in the world. Of course it depends on where you are in America, as the south still has issues with racism. However I am well traveled as well, and Iāve been harassed by natives for being white, especially in South America. America 100% used to be very racist and a lot of systems that we created had racist purposes, but also keep in mind we were THE FIRST nation in history to abolish
Europe did abolish slavery before us, and the civil war left pockets of racism in America, but for the most part we are the most open minded country in the world. Especially when in comes to lgbtq. Canada might be the only one more open minded than us but they are not nearly as diverse.
Also the country itself is generally open minded bc of parts like California and New England pulling it left by force. The vast majority of the country population is very socially conservative. Queer people are still killed for being queer. Black people see killed for being black. And without being too hyperbolic maga is quite literally our version of the taliban. Sure we arenāt some third world country doing honor killings but we are moving closer to that reality than not.
the obsession with wanting to be oppressed so damn badly. youāre rebuttal to my lived experience about racism is well youāve experienced it too in south america from the places Iāve traveled I have rarely experienced it. I donāt go to Italy or France because I know the racism towards me would be insane. You donāt have to look up what countries you cannot go to because of the of your whiteness
saying America used to be racist is invalidating. America is very much still is racist. there are systems put in place against people of color. You start off on an uneven playing field off rip for the color of your skin. Youāve experienced āracismā once in South America. I have experienced it every single day of my life! Under this current administration, itās not going to stop it. Itās only going to progressively get worse.
I have experienced racism more than once actually all over the world. And like I said, it depends on where you go in America. I live in the north, and a funny story actually is me and my friend both applied to the same medical school. He is a black man with a 2.8 GPA and very little practical experience. I am a white man with a 3.95 GPA and lots of practical experience. He got accepted that year and I didnāt. Even he admitted it was complete bullshit.
I was born in a very poor black part of my city, I was bullied and made fun of all throughout my childhood for being white. I do not have an āobsession with being a victimā. I have moved on from my anger at how I was treated and matured enough to realize that not everyone is like that, and that there are bad people in every race and to get mad at the world around me is something idiots do
You are the one that brought up other countries first though, like what are we doing? And stop trying to change the definition of racism to fit your narrative. Racism is racism. And I didnāt immediately āmake it about myself and my whitenessā you brought up a personal anecdote so I also brought one up.
I will say it over and over again you will never experience racism white people in America will never experience racism until you are the minority where systems are placed against you. You will never understand truly what people of color go through on a day-to-day basis. please touch grass because of desperation to want to be oppressed so badly is odd.
I literally never brought up or talked about Islam. Youāre talking about someone elseāļø. And the context of me getting jumped is basically they thought I had money because I was white, their words exactly. The whole time I was getting beat they were calling me slurs like cracker. And I could say the same to you. Your desire to feel victimized by everything around you is kind of crazy. We have both experienced racism. The only difference is you are trying to diminish my experience.
I donāt bitch and moan about my childhood, I started from the lowest point I could and am making something of myself. Iām studying to be a doctor right now. I donāt whine about how some of my peers were accepted purely for DEI reasons even if it grates me slightly. Life aināt fair, and trying to view it from a lens of fairness is a waste of time. I have never seen systemic racism in the north. I canāt say anything about the south because I donāt live there, but the north is progressive
I donāt desire to be victimized, but Iām also not going to pretend that Iāve never experienced racism. I am aware that there are systems against me and I have to work 10 times harder and go against the odds. You will never experience racism as a white man in America point blank you trying to argue any other point is dumb.
I live in the south thereās that difference but again you will never experience racism in America!! you can quite literally Google search this you can experience discrimination or prejudice but you will never experience with racism. I donāt understand why you want to be associated with that tie??
And if you wanna call me racist, thatās your cup of tea but Iāve never treated anybody different based on the color of their skin. I simply started this conversation by saying I felt safer with immigrants than I did white people. I will better understand and converse with people that have gone through similar struggles as me & white people have not gone through that.
My guy, you are talking about system racism. If we are getting into definitions what youāre describing is systemic racism. Use correct terminology if youāre going to shout. Because I agree I donāt face systemic racism and I will argue no one in the north does. I cannot speak for the south though
And ghetto culture is idolizing criminals, wanting that new $500 pair of jays while not being able to put food on the table, criticizing people who want to āescape the ghettoā. Itās a culmination of greed, lack of empathy, general xenophobia, and zero shame. I grew up in it and I hate it with every fiber of my being
The fact that you donāt know that other races had slaves in America proves that you arenāt well educated in history. White people were the first ones to abolish slavery. Yet you say you feel more comfortable with immigrates and not white people, so therefore you only see immigrants as black or brown people.
Well if the shoe fits? There you go again saying I feel safer with immigrants than white people. So you associate black and brown people as immigrants. Say that to the Irish and Italians that came to America. White people were captured and sold into slavery by Arabs. You quite literally know nothing about history.
Ghetto culture is associated with African Americans because ghettos have a lot of them. But it is not āblack cultureā, it is ghetto culture. White people, Hispanic people, Asian people, African Americans. ANYONE that lives in a ghetto is infected with this disease on America. I grew up around people who idolized murderers and drug dealers. I saw a mother of 4 spend her entire pay check on a new purse instead of feeding her children. Gangs are looked up to, drug dealers are seen as cool,
this goes back to slavery and generational trauma during slavery families were separated!! and anything that gets you out of your current circumstance youāre going to want to idealized and achieve nobody wants to be poor or uneducated but when it is normalized, and when you know their systems in place, and you donāt wanna constantly have to fight, you will let yourself get sucked in
Itās clear you just donāt know what you are talking about when it comes to ghettos, so after this Iām done responding. I never said you called it black culture, thatās just a nomenclature Iāve heard people say thatās incorrect. Yes the government has responsibility in how they turned out. And red lining was a serious problem, but at their current state, most of these limitations are self imposed by each other. Itās like you get made fun of or ostracized for wanting to get educated.
A lot of modern rappers have made kids idolize drug dealing and gang violence. And of course no one wants to be uneducated and broke, but there is almost a superiority complex in these areas, at least there was where I grew up. People feel the need to flex nonexistent wealth to satisfy their ego that they somehow developed into a complex. A lot of them are obsessed with being viewed as hard and will do anything to make people see them that way
This is the CULTURE that developed in these areas. It is a CULTURE, that is an infection. Itās the main thing holding poor people raised in these areas down nowadays. Of course no one wants to hire a violent teen or let them into their school. But from everything Iāve seen in life, if you make yourself appear proper and speak fluently and not like an uneducated kid, you will have plenty of opportunityās in life no matter your skin color. Itās just that no one understands this