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Hamas are freedom fighters?
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Anonymous 2w

Yes, and no. Yes they do resist occupying Zionist forces. But they also do horrible things to the Palestinian people under their own control.

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Anonymous 2w

People tend to forget that Netanyahu and his government had financed Hamas to destabilize the Gaza Strip

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Anonymous 1w

Will do! :-) The Netanyahu government passed a law in 2018 that explicitly stated that ONLY the Jewish people have the right to self-determination in the state of Israel and demoted Arabic as an official language. Also, the Israeli government instituted a total blockade of all food, water, medicine, fuel, and electricity from the Gaza Strip causing the people in the Strip to starve to death, not to mention the indiscriminate bombings in the Strip of churches, hospitals, UN buildings, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

I mean it is this way because Israeli propped them up over more moderate groups of freedom fighters. When you have no other options you take what you can get

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Anonymous 2w

Goat

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Anonymous 2w

The audacity on calling me a Nazi

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Anonymous 2w

So I’m a Nazi for not supporting a pro-fascist, pro-apartheid government that is actively committing genocide on the Gaza Strip on a grand scale?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Zionism is what protects Jews from what happened in Australia

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Define apartheid and then explain how that is what Israel is? Same thing with genocide and facism

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

You wouldn’t know what a fascist was if one slapped you in the face. You think EVERYONE that is bigger than you is a fascist

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Discrimination because of race. Plain and simple. If it’s apartheid, why are Muslims and Arabs allowed to be doctors, lawyers, politicians, and every other powerful job under the sun. Tell me why every sign in Israel is written in three languages. English, Hebrew, AND Arabic. Why do Palestinians feel safe walking on the streets of Israel. Especially for a country in its infancy, that is progression

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

I’m saying that Israel isn’t apartheid

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

An apartheid state is a system of segregation or discrimination on the grounds of race. Genocide is the deliberate killing or serious harm to an ethnic, religious, racial, and/or national group. Fascism is a far-right authoritarian ideology that emphasizes certain characteristics such as extreme nationalism, a strong central state, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Ok so tell the class how it relates to Israel

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

What?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Was that not a good enough explanation? Should I also mention Israel’s democratic backsliding by Netanyahu trying to undermine the Israeli Supreme Court? Also should I mention the mistreatment of Israeli Arabs in the nation?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Well there is mistreatment of anyone in any country Arabs are equal citizens in Israel, something you can’t say basically anywhere else in the Middle East the other way around

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

No I was just confused which definition you were applying to Israel

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Lebanon, the UAE, and Bahrain are Arab nations that do enjoy religious freedom in varying degrees. Did you forget the 2018 law that I mentioned? Israel’s status as a democracy is declining

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

I don’t even know what you mean by only Jews can self determinate??

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Essentially, the law states that Israel is for Jews and Jews only

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

So what about all the Muslims in the country? The one in the Supreme Court and the 10 or so in the Knesset?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Also why would the official language of Israel be Arabic?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Because there is a significant portion of Arabs that still live in Israel

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Yeah most things are written in Arabic as well but most people in Israel are Jewish… and most people speak Hebrew, even the Muslims

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Just because there are minorities in political office does not mean that there isn’t any discrimination going on

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

I didn’t say there isn’t discrimination, same thing with blacks in the USA. But in the law there’s nothing against them

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

So Muslims have equal rights, they can buy land, vote, move freely in Israel but still discriminated?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

That 2018 law essentially connected religion and state and codified the mistreatment of Arabs into law and it also endorses the use of illegal settlements on Palestinian land. It excludes the Palestinian people living in there from that sovereignty as well. Remember that apartheid in South Africa was a process

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

So “Palestinians” aren’t Israeli citizens tho; atleast the ones in Gaza and the West Bank. Also can you tell me the specific law?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

Funny story, the news won’t tell you it was a Jewish person who shot the place up lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

A jewish person shot up the Hanukkah celebration in Australia???

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Yep. His profile got deleted, and you used to be able to see on google trends that the beach name associated with terrorism and other words related to attack were searched DAYS before it happened. Guess where it was searched from? Israel

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

And also I bet they won’t tell you the man who heroically stopped the shooter, and suffered injuries that needed surgery, was Muslim

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Yes I know he was Muslim , great guy the other 2 were definitely Muslim. We know you want to flip the narrative somehow that Jews are still responsible for it somehow but whatever you say

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

So then explain why someone who was there on October 7, was also there at Bondi beach, but this image (which ISNT AI BTW) exists, and for some reason the halfway competent medics left the blood all over him before bandaging instead of at least trying to clean it to see the extent of the injuries. Oh and why was it so necessary for him to take a random selfie mid attack???

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Why they left blood on him before bandaging him? Because the blood was in a different spot than the cut… it’s actually crazy how this still somehow turned into a conspiracy get a life stop hating Jews

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

The blood, on his head, is in a different spot than the cut, which is supposedly on his head? Right

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

He got grazed by a bullet, there blood everywhere. Are you dumb?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

And NONE of it was even attempted to be cleaned? And even if he was grazed, he should have been taken to the hospital first instead of bandaged and put in front of a microphone bc there could have been damage to his skull. Also he could have developed a subdural hematoma from the trauma, which would need a CT to actually diagnose and treat before it’s too late? But sure I’ll believe you

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Nah like usually I argue with anyone even with zero brain cells, but this is like negative brain cells. Just try to blame anything you can on theJews

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Sounds to me that you don’t actually have anything to say, and that Netanyahu telling the Australian PM way back in August that recognizing Palestinian statehood was a mistake and would lead to antisemitic attacks, definitely isn’t linked to this

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Bro this is some really dumb Instagram conspiracy shit this isn’t how you get factual information. Here let me grab a random image and claim it’s from x event and people will just believe me automatically and BOOM LOOK THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS HIDING. Like even if you think this is real how do YOU think this could be distinguished from completely made up shit.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

And then if you can’t find an actual source for the shit people made up it’s gonna LOOK THE GOVERNMENT HID IT FROM US

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

So then how do YOU explain things being censored in real time, Netanyahu claiming it was supposed to be a Jewish person who stopped the shooters (he later corrected himself but as the story was breaking he claimed the hero was Jewish) really sounds like it’s a setup

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Because he incorrectly assumed the bystander was someone from the Jewish event, and has personal and political bias to assume the hero would be Jewish rather than Muslim. And that really doesn’t relate to you believing random social media screenshots as concrete proof. Like that’s a broader problem with how you base your worldview and what you incorrectly believe are credible sources. This is literally like…are those GroupMe messages? This is like a grandma believing Facebook memes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Also like are you sure things are being censored in real time because I checked the Google trends claim yesterday right when someone posted it here and it didn’t show anything so maybe you can’t double check “the name was googled in Israel” because the original claim was just bullshit. Absence of evidence for your claim isn’t evidence for a conspiracy

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Let’s see they do hate crimes call Jews bad things do bad things and violent protests and the country gives them something they want, they aren’t gonna stop they are going to push further

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Let’s think again, it’s a Jewish event with thousands of Jews maybe it is a Jew😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Nah like are you actually slow or smth, he initially said that a Jew jumped on the gunman because it was an event with like 1000+ Jews and a Jewish event and there are Jews like look similar to what he looks like. So then when he learned otherwise he set it’s straight. Like you are just anti Semitic tryna get anything

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

It’s this law: Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People which passed on July 19, 2018

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

This is straight up a lie bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Like how do you just eat up flimsy garbage like this. We literally know who the shooters are, in fact one of them is in custody, why tf would they send a Jewish person named “David Cohen” to do a false flag and risk getting captured like literally what happened

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Well I’m pretty sure the other shooter was shot dead

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

And we know exactly who he is. 6’s narrative makes no sense, bro says Netanyahu staged this bc Australia recognized Palestine, now he’s gonna say Australia is helping do a coverup. It’s loony toons shit

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Oh no I know, this guy is a bozo and a bum I can’t believe how low brain cell count you gotta have to blame this massacre on the Jews

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I’m not blaming it on the Jews, it’s tragic what happened to them at the event, but Israel has a confirmed history of false flag attacks and subterfuge in foreign countries.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Yes they do but this is just too much of a reach

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Maybe so, but there’s no way for us to ever know if we only trust the official story. OUR OWN GOVERNMENT has a history of helping and giving Israeli citizens preferential treatment, like the tech officer who got caught in a child predator sting and he was let go with a slap on the wrist

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

My guy that doesn’t mean every event ever is a false flag. Russia did false flags in Chechnya that doesn’t automatically mean that every bad thing that happens in Russia is a false flag. Same goes for the USA, not every mass shooting or terrorist attack in the USA is a false flag just because of Operation Northwoods. You’re going with the narrative you like over anything evidenced.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w
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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Damn Muslims did 9/11 so every attack to USA is Muslim

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Look, with the past history of Israel and the current situation, how can I not be skeptical? This is especially damning because Netanyahu sends a letter saying recognizing Palestine as a state was a mistake that’ll increase antisemitism, Netanyahu claiming it was a Jewish hero before it was revealed he was Muslim, and those damning search results on Google trends, it just screams planned. Yeah it’s really unfortunate what happened, but can you really blame me for being skeptical given the past?

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Yes I can blame you for being skeptical 15 Jews died and you’re like uhhh well 🤤Netanyahu was behind this. He said he was Jewish because he thought he was, and statistically he’s not wrong. Also he’s no the only hero that day, 2 Jews lost their lives trying to get the gun off the gunman initially they just atent as famous because there wasn’t as clear of a video of them. Maybe either wait until more FACTS come out not assumptions or just do some research.

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