Anonymous blue__wave 5w

I hate that they say “unspecified” it’s any unlawful order. They swore an oath to uphold the constitution and therefore have the right to refuse any and all unlawful orders. They want to divide us so fucking bad and he called to KILL democrats

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Anonymous #4 5w

I think when they say that they mean they weren’t pointing to any specific order from Trump. They were just saying soldiers should, Which makes his statement even more insane, bc he’s not disagreeing about if an order is illegal or not he’s disagreeing that they should disobey illegal orders.

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Anonymous #5 5w

Because our government is ran by nazis

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Anonymous #4 5w

Well no shit

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Anonymous #5 5w

Because everyone is so used to Trump throwing petty tantrums that no one bats an eyelash. He will throw a tantrum and everyone will just go on hating him.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Yeah so they specifically said that the soldiers have the right to not comply with UNLAWFUL orders. The key word they used was unlawful, specifically any order that did not fall in line with their oath to the constitution. All military personnel swear an oath to the constitution, not the president. If the president gives an order that is in conflict with the constitution (like a majority of trumps orders) then they have not only a right but a duty to not comply

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Anonymous #4 5w

They weren’t giving some narrow reminder about “unlawful orders.” The way they framed it implied the military should ignore the administration entirely - that’s why people called it inciting a mutiny. There’s a big difference between citing the UCMJ and publicly suggesting the military shouldn’t follow the Commander-in-Chief. You can’t add the word “unlawful” after the fact to make it sound normal.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Where in the video did they say to refuse all orders? they said that they can and must refuse lawful orders.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Unlawful*

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Anonymous #8 5w

Is it law and order to post about hanging people in congress bc they said soldiers shouldn’t break the law? You’re delusional if you actually this.

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Anonymous #8 5w

I am convinced you didn’t watch the video because they explicitly say “unlawful orders”

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

That is one of the punishments for inciting a mutiny. That’s a fact. And no this is not about soldiers breaking the law it’s about Forgoing all given principles our military follows bc orange man is the worst human being on earth apparently.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Have you seen the video dipshit? They exclusively told soldiers to refuse unlawful orders, which not only their moral but their legal responsibility.

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

I have seen the unedited video, the one that was originally released. I’m Not referring to the one CNN or Fox or any news agency is pushing. Bc they are a bunch of block heads imo. Also I’m not a dipshit

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Anonymous #8 5w

What did they specifically say that calls for them to die?

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

I never said for them to die, if you can read I said I don’t think death is necessary or even should be considered. I said they should be removed from congress. Starting from “this administration is - to - against American citizens” Directly accusation Orange man’s administration is illegally deploying the military against Us citizens Then from “like us - to - right here at home” they doubled down on the claim that this administration is a threat to our constitution - next comment

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Anonymous #8 5w

That in it self is not illegal to say, but the trouble comes from the context they are creating Finally from “you must refuse -or this constitution” This is true in isolation but given the context already created it’s pushing me towards the mutiny standing.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Also it felt like a more of a call to action, bc if you watch the rest of the video from that end point. In summary they are saying we need you to do this, and don’t worry we have your back. We can agree to disagree but this is very dangerous language given the political landscape right now.

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Anonymous #8 5w

That’s what you’re currently defending that was what the president was calling for. Those all true statements. The context is completely true why would you be worried about soldiers hearing that?

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Anonymous #8 5w

But saying we should hang people in congress for saying soldiers shouldn’t break the law isn’t dangerous?

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Anonymous #8 5w

Why aren’t you principled about this at all?

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

You do understand the avg military soldier has the iq of a potato to put it mildly.

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Anonymous #8 5w

No they aren’t. People in the military aren’t mindless children that’s why we trust them to make critical choices.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Also it doesn’t make sense. If the context isn’t true, which it absolutely is, why would they refuse orders? Shouldn’t the orders not even happen bc the context isn’t true?

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Anonymous #8 5w

If that was true I don’t think the congresspersons would make that video appealing to the soldiers to their moral and legal obligations per their own oath to the constitution

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

Dude just stop. You can’t fix stupid. If 8 leaves the cult, it will be because all the chaos affected them personally, not because they suddenly learned to have morals.

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

I have made my point, I’m not wasting my Friday bickering about what is true and not true due to the thick paint of y’all’s own political bias.

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Anonymous #8 5w

I like how you’re defending the president calling for elected officials to be hanged but yes we’re politically biased. Donald Trump could take a piss on you and you would thank him.

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Anonymous #7 5w

No I think it’s worth shaming these people.

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Anonymous #7 5w

I think acting like it’s all normal is the worst thing you can do. But I agree it is a waste of time with a some people.

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

Buddy for the last time I never said I wanted anyone to be hanged. I just said they should be removed from congress. Please have a great rest of your day

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

Also we’re on an anonymous server. Shame them irl

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Anonymous #7 5w

Based true

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Anonymous #8 5w

Then why aren’t you equally or more upset at the president? Why do you just care about one side saying you shouldn’t break the law, vs the president who’s saying we should start hanging people?

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

Bc I’m a moderate, I could care less what party is in office. All I care about is facts. I also think there is good happening from this presidency, though there is a lot of bad. But that is all presidents. Nobody is perfect unfortunately, not even you cupcake.

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Anonymous #8 5w

You literally were just leaving the convo bc you didn’t want to talk about facts lol. When has it ever been moderate to say we should hang people in congress? How are you a moderate at all? No other president has ever done this so no it’s not “all presidents”. Bro how old are you cupcake lol?

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Anonymous #8 5w

If you care so much about facts, go watch the video

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

For the last time I never said we should hang anyone. Actually orange boy is not the worst president that would be James Buchanan. This administration is definitely in the top 10 though.

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Anonymous #8 5w

But you’re defending it and when I asked you why you weren’t against it or mad you said it was bc you were a moderate which doesn’t even make sense?

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Anonymous #8 5w

Just out of curiosity let’s just hear your top five presidents post fdr.

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

James Buchanan, Harding, Nixon, Franklin Perice, and I’m split between Obama and Herbert Hoover. Obama imo fucked the economy - all his policies were good but economics is definitely something I personally look at.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Trump is like 7 or 8. For all time worsts

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Anonymous #8 5w

Oh ok you’re saying he’s the top worst not the top best.

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Anonymous #8 5w

The economy under Obama was good by every metric I’ve seen but ok.

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

I don’t like how he handled the automotive crisis and the Great Recession consequences. My all time favorite is Eisenhower

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Anonymous #8 5w

Sure I honestly don’t get the disconnect that’s happening here then. No other president has called for people in congress to be hanged right? That’s pretty extraordinarily bad. No other president has sent the guard to multiple major cities that don’t politically align with him against the wishes of governors. That also seems historically bad. He’s been president for the two largest shut downs in U.S. history that also seems historically bad.

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Anonymous #8 5w

No other president to my knowledge has sent people to a prison camp in another country without due process that also seems historically bad. No other president has attempted to stop the peaceful transfer of power. If you’re a big history guy I feel like it should be especially apparent how bad he is.

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Anonymous blue__wave 5w

Fdr, Truman did that sent Japanese people to camps, I think it was James Madison or John Adam that dueled with people. Also what do we know Twitter was not around back then 😂

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Anonymous #8 5w

Maybe Guantánamo is the only historic comparison with cecot. But even that happened bc of the actual crisis of 9/11 not a manufactured crisis of Venezuelan gangs.

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Anonymous #8 5w

But the Japanese interment was a national tragedy and we gave out over a billion dollars bc it was such a tragedy. That also again was bc of ww2 not a manufactured crisis. So again it seems historically bad or at the very least aligned with other historic tragedies. Dueling isn’t the same as executing people lol.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Regardless you have to admit that all those things are historically bad or at the very least are aligned with past tragedies.

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Anonymous #8 5w

I also don’t know what twitter has to do with anything but ok.

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