Anonymous #2 5d

The missing and murdered indigenous peoples continues to be a major issue. No one cares when a little girl goes missing if she’s native. A recent topic is that Trump gave the Lumbee tribe federal recognition. If you’re not familiar with them, they’re quite literally not indigenous and their federal recognition is not only a slap in the face to us but also a threat to our sovereignty

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Anonymous #3 5d

I never said all, but I will take the liberty to say almost all

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’m not disputing that. But I say it because I truly believe that it’s not our land, it’s the land of indigenous peoples. I know there was a time that we may have been able to share land and have done it the right way, but white men were just….are just the worst.

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Anonymous OP 5d

yes, im definitely aware of MMIP(R), especially after dozens of mass burial sites were found (2021ish?) and there was increased awareness. i have not seen anything about the Lumbee tribe. admittedly, i know i lack more knowledge than id be happy to admit. i do think that indigenous peoples/nations are pushed to the wayside because of local sovereignty, which i think people ignorantly “blame” systemic injustice on. i appreciate your response for sure, thanks for sharing ‼️

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Anonymous OP 5d

truly if you know things/topics/resources that are helpful and are willing to share, I really would appreciate it. best way to learn is to start with listening imo

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Anonymous #3 5d

I appreciate your empathy immensely, but living in the past gets us no where. My people did not die for us to not move forward. The United States is our country now

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Anonymous #4 5d

❤️

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Anonymous OP 5d

❤️❤️

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Anonymous #3 5d

What did I do?? We in the same boat 😭

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’ve taken a whole class on the indigenous history of the mid-Atlantic region and the thing with the lumbee actually like a broader process with many groups of people in the region. The Lumbee *are* partly indigenous (with distinct family ties mostly to assimilated indigenous groups in Virginia like the Weyanoke), but they are a triracial group that has largely assimilated and hasn’t existed as a distinct tribal entity. The same is true for a number of Virginia’s now-recognized tribes

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Anonymous #7 5d

IMO this sort of process is kind of a result of how American Indian policy has worked in this country. Either you are a federal tribe (and thus distinct as a nation with your own government) or you aren’t Indian. This means that many groups of partial indigenous descent which haven’t existed as their own distinct tribe are trying to like artificially create a tribal government and identity.

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Anonymous #7 5d

For example, here in Virginia there are 11 state recognized tribes. They are all of partial indigenous descent, and most are the same small number of mixed ethnicity families which have existed in the state for hundreds of years. The Pamunkey and the Northern Mattaponi have maintained state reservations since the 1600s, while the other communities have not.

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Anonymous #7 5d

There’s a ton of controversial stuff with race and which state tribes are “more legitimate” and tribes getting federal recognition through congressional bills rather than the federal recognition process. It’s a clusterfuck but very similar to the lumbee situation. And that’s just because the mid-Atlantic has an unusual history where assimilation, segregation, and recognition have made these modern problems

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Anonymous #7 5d

The Lumbee will never be indigenous. Not because they’re mixed race, but because they have no real ties they can prove. There’s a reason why so many tribes and actual native people oppose them. You’re missing the whole point. They don’t want federal recognition to be “Indian” - they want money and benefits. There are plenty of people who are indigenous without a tribe but they don’t act like the Lumbee, because they actually care about ancestry/culture

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Anonymous #9 5d

Mainly Billie Eilish at the Grammy’s

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Anonymous OP 5d

Ohhh ok thank you

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