Anonymous OP 3w

Like - we really are the same and maybe that sucks sometimes but “cultural incompatibility” is complete and utter horseshit

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Anonymous #1 3w

“Enforcement,” to be frank. Because that implies state-sponsored violence.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I don’t think enforcement implies state sponsored violence at all. There’s police officers in charge of traffic enforcement. As members of a state police force does that imply state sponsored violence?

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Anonymous #1 3w

I want you to describe to me - exactly, in specific terms - how ICE “non-violently” enforces someone’s illegal status by deporting them. Cause the way I see it? Even if it’s a completely compliant affair, where both the ICE officers and the detainee are doing exactly what they’re supposed to - ICE is still actively uprooting someone’s life that they’ve built and throwing them out to start over. I consider that violent. Why don’t you?

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Anonymous #1 3w

Different angle: if someone ripped YOU away from everything you’d worked to build and stuck you halfway across the globe with nothing, would you consider it NON-violent?

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Anonymous OP 3w

I openly said I oppose ice in my post. Ice has only existed since 2003. Immigration enforcement existed before ice. What are you not understanding

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Anonymous #1 3w

So… how was it enforced before ICE? Again - I’m asking for specifics.

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Anonymous OP 3w

And I don’t care about specifics right now. My post was just me stating I don’t like ICE but I support the concept of enforcing immigration law (as does like every other country on the planet).

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Anonymous #1 3w

Too slow! I did the research for you. Prior to ICE, the “Immigration and Naturalization Service” existed. Or, INS. They deported people too. So AGAIN - if someone ripped you away from everything you’d worked to build and stuck you halfway across the globe….

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Anonymous #1 3w

(and again - their justification for DOING SO is an IMAGINARY LINE WE MADE UP.)

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Anonymous OP 3w

I was never going to research it 😭😭

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Anonymous #1 3w

I appreciate the honesty, while simultaneously realize you aren’t going to do any self reflection because of it

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Anonymous OP 3w

You’re going down this deep rabbit hole of theoreticals

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Anonymous #1 3w

No, I’m not. INS - and the deportations they committed - are not a hypothetical. I’m asking you to put yourself in someone else’s shoes. Someone else who LITERALLY, ACTUALLY, AND PROVABLY lived througu what I’m describing. Or, in simpler terms: I’m asking you to have a little fucking empathy.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I hope tomorrow is a better day.

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Anonymous #1 3w

And THEN - AFTER the empathy - I’m asking you to consider an extremely simple question. If it happened to you, would you consider it non-violent?

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Anonymous #1 3w

If I didn’t have empathy I wouldn’t oppose Ice

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Anonymous #1 3w

Not what I asked If it happened to you - would you consider it non-violent?

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Anonymous OP 3w

I’m not going to keep responding to you. I’m not getting anything out of this conversation at all. I know what you’re trying to get it and I just don’t see anything productive coming out of this.

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Anonymous #1 3w

I know you’re not getting anything from this. *You’re completely refusing to engage with the question.* So ONCE AGAIN - if someone ripped you away from everything you’d worked to build and stuck you halfway across the globe with NOTHING AT ALL - would you consider that to be non-violent?

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Anonymous OP 3w

🙏🏻🙏🏻

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Anonymous #1 3w

Silence and/or redirection is an answer too. Do you realize that? I do.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I told you what I believe already. Cut your hyper fixation on this conversation and do something productive with your time like I’m about to.

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Anonymous OP 3w

no that’s most definitely a thing cannibalism is a cultural thing in some tribes we don’t cohabitate with cannibals

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Anonymous #3 3w

and yet the brown and black kids i’m basing this statement off of AREN’T cannibals. so why would you try and EQUATE my students to cannibalism?

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Anonymous #1 3w

and the worst part is? you were so close to confronting the fact your belief system is wrong, but you chose to ignore the evidence anyway

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Anonymous OP 3w

Whatever helps you sleep at night unc

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Anonymous #1 3w

five hours of reply formulation just to end up with "unc." sad.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I told you I had better things to be doing. It’s a Saturday. Not everyone is chronically online like you

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Anonymous OP 3w

I knew from the minute you started this get your point was and I just completely disagreed with it from a logic point of view. You can claim I’m not knowledgeable on it or whatever to make yourself feel better or whatever but I am. You made it really hard for someone to have a rational debate with you given your speaking from emotion.

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Anonymous OP 3w

well i’m not. I wasn’t comparing anything i was just listing an example when culture can go too far i don’t know you’re students and i’m not in the business of badmouthing them sorry

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Anonymous OP 3w

but like do you agree that cultural incompatibility is in fact a thing because of cannibalism?

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