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history ppl was there any way that the Americas could have met Europe without disease absolutely ripping through the native Americans? Ik colonialism is how it happened in our world but how long would it have taken for natives to get immunity?
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Anonymous 16h

Nothing short of extremely early vaccine development would’ve prevented it

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Anonymous 16h

The New World never developed a large scale agriculture on the level of Europe and wasn’t able to sustain the same population sizes as Europe and Asia, which created those diseases.

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Anonymous 16h

Probably not in the way you are thinking. Maybe if the New World happened to have worse agricultural hygiene than they actually did in our timeline.

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Anonymous 7h

I think the most likely scenario without dramatic restructuring of American societies would be early old world contact introducing diseases prior to the colonial era. Ex, shipwrecked west Africans, the Vikings stick around a bit more, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

The New World would’ve needed large domesticated animals such as horses, meals, and cattle in order to develop in the same mannerism and develop dangerous diseases, and even then it’s possible that they would still be wiped out by European diseases

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

The De Soto expedition did see large scale corn agriculture among the Mississippian civilization. Large organized chiefdoms like that of Tuscaloosa were as developed as they could get without native draft animals like horses or cows.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15h

Yeah they did the best they could I’m just saying the agriculture didn’t create enough abundance to sustain large cities. This is also why very few of the natives achieved specialization and didn’t develop Bronze Age technology.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

And I should say they did have large cities, but they were near European size

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

I mean Cahokia was quite large but yes few regions of the world were as urbanized as Europe during that time.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 7h

In this scenario, I would expect different diseases to rip through Europe and the Americas as they were mutually passed between them

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 7h

slight nerd pedantry, Mesoamerica actually did have bronze

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