Anonymous #2 1d

Because not voting only serves to work against your own interests. State and local races are some of the most important races in the country. They’re the ones that impact your home turf more directly. You choosing not to vote doesn’t do anything, it doesn’t help anyone, all it does is create space for someone like MAGA to take your space and vote on your behalf.

3

Anonymous OP 1d

And what if I’m busy

-2

Anonymous #2 1d

Find a time during which ur not

12

Anonymous #2 1d

Early voting exists, voting by mail exists, ballot places usually run in person for an entire week before polls close. If you’re already making excuses to avoid engaging, then you were never able to be convinced.

3

Anonymous OP 1d

Yeah I’m not voting icl

-2

Anonymous #1 1d

Seriously, these morons think that not voting is some rebellion when it’s an option the government gives them lol

8

Anonymous #2 1d

Yeah I got that from you being intentionally dense. Glad you like MAGA enough to let them take your vote though, good for you for capitulating to those morons too

2

Anonymous OP 1d

And 9.9/10 it’s REALLY easy to get done and controls who’s in government. Low effort, high reward

8

Anonymous OP 1d

I hate maga

-1

Anonymous #1 1d

Seriously, I literally have spoken to my state rep and he changed his policy stance after a town hall meeting that went poorly for him

6

Anonymous #2 1d

No you don’t. You’re cool w them voting for you.

2

Anonymous OP 1d

Literally the only thing I’d vote on is one Amendment in my state then spoil the rest of the ballot because Catholics aren’t allowed to vote for pro abortion candidates and I don’t want to vote for maga

-2

Anonymous #2 1d

So let me get this straight. You’re letting a single issue affect someone’s chances at gaining power even if that means aiding in the reversal of trump policies that kill or hurt people?

3

Anonymous OP 1d

Catholics are by doctrine not allowed to vote for a pro abortion candidate because abortion is considered the preeminent issue

-1

Anonymous #2 1d

Pro abortion doesn’t exist. That’s a great way to excuse not caring about other people. It’s also idiotic to assume you can’t vote for someone who you agree with MOSTLY

2

Anonymous OP 1d

It is, literal, Catholic Doctrine that says I’m not allowed to vote for a pro choice candidate UNLESS it is a race between 2 pro choice candidates

-1

Anonymous #2 1d

So because of a single issue, you’re willing to let a MAGA who wants to continue blowing up iranian children up, take your vote?

2

Anonymous OP 1d

You say I’m willing to do something like I am supposed to just violate Catholic canon law

0

Anonymous #2 1d

I’m saying you’re willing because objectively you are

6

Anonymous OP 1d

That’s cool. It’s good to make an impact beyond screaming into a void like this lol

8

Anonymous #1 1d

Yeah to be fair, I literally did scream at him in the front row LMAO but it worked

1

Anonymous OP 1d

So just understand this. I view abortion as murder, just like this war in Iran is causing murder. The Iran war has killed 7,000 Iranians Abortion in the US kills over 1.1 million per year. What issue do you think would take priority in my view if I view both as equal wrongs?

-1

Anonymous #2 1d

The one that’s crushing children’s skulls with thousands of pounds of concrete. And burning people alive, while their loved ones starve from the destruction of their farms. Their pain seems more torturous, you’d disagree?

4

Anonymous OP 1d

Over 150 times more deaths bro…

1

Anonymous OP 1d

Lol that’s not screaming into a void 😂

6

Anonymous #2 1d

What’s better? being asleep and dying or watching your brother get burned alive while concrete dust fills your lungs?

1

Anonymous OP 1d

The methods that are causing the deaths in Iran are more gruesome but they don’t even come close to the priority it takes for 1.1 million deaths in our own land every year

1

Anonymous #2 1d

whose policies will help more ppl

5

Anonymous #2 1d

Which is a more preferable way to die? You’re not answering directly.

5

Anonymous OP 1d

Ofc being asleep is a better way to die. That doesn’t mean 7,000 outweighs 1.1 million

1

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

i wish Democrats would cough up a decent campaign that’s a little more than just “we aren’t trump”. maybe they’d stand a chance

-2

Anonymous #2 1d

So whose pain out of those two groups is more pressing to halt? People who die in their sleep and can’t feel it, or the group having their bones crushed by concrete because of US missiles?

1

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

Texas has become competitive, that’s not something to dismiss

11

Anonymous OP 1d

we’ll see after the election is over. best not count your chickens before they hatch. y’all thought 2024 would be a toss up then lost both the electoral college and popular vote

-2

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

The republicans have spent more in Texas’ than some presidential campaigns spent in their entire run. It’s genuinely so weird to see people root against halting Trumps agenda

1

Anonymous OP 1d

The group of 1.1 million getting killed because that is 150 times more deaths overall which, morally, outweighs the 7,000 dying a gruesome death when talking about an argument on human life

1

Anonymous OP 1d

Democrats aren’t going to halt trump

-2

Anonymous #2 1d

So you’re choosing people who can’t feel pain, over the pain of 7 year old girls who have to suffer the weight of a building crush their skulls while they cry and scream hoping that their families or the adults will save them. Got it!

1

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

You say that but they did the last time lol. The last 2 years of his presidency were full of roadblocks Have the opinion you want, I’m just not sure why people accept that some help is better than no help.

0

Anonymous OP 1d

Eh I have Paxton winning by 5-7 (I’ve said this many times on here), but that doesn’t mean the folks in TX shouldn’t vote anyway

-1

Anonymous OP 1d

do we think Democrats wouldn’t also bomb Iran?

1

Anonymous #1 1d

Yeah idk if it’ll go through but it’s competitive, which is crazy for texas

1

Anonymous OP 1d

Alright I was being nice but dawg let’s be real your argument is full of fallacies and your gotcha points even suck ass. If someone views abortion as murder then 1.1 million will outweigh 7,000. Comparing a death toll of like 500,000 to 50,000 ok that might be reasonable.

1

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

I mean they had a chance of winning. They had a lot of headwinds due to the very short harris campaign, economic issues, etc that made them come up short in ‘24

3

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

I think they’d be willing to halt some of his executive power to, yeah lol.

1

Anonymous OP 1d

I can probably only count on a hand the number of polls in which paxton is ahead 😭

3

Anonymous #2 1d

You weren’t being nice by dismissing the deaths and torture of iranian kids

5

Anonymous OP 1d

Also how are you not going insane 😭 you’re fielding anti-voting arguments from the left and right at the same time lol

5

Anonymous OP 1d

I’m not dismissing anything. What’s happening in Iran is horrific. You are dismissing a number that is 150 times greater than the other

1

Anonymous #1 1d

I’m so done with this mindset lmao

1

Anonymous #2 1d

So whose pain is more pressing? The children in iran or people who cannot feel anything and then die?

3

Anonymous OP 1d

I’ve been done with it lol. The reason why Republicans have the power they do is b/c right leaning folks don’t do this stuff

5

Anonymous OP 1d

This is just rage bait atp. 1.1 million takes priority in terms of voting over 7,000 gruesome deaths regardless of how bad the death toll is. And like I said what’s happening in Iran is in fat horrific, so why would I vote for MAGA?? I wouldn’t because that’s awful. So why not vote Democrat? Because they’re in support of abortion

0

Anonymous #2 1d

How bad the death method is* In fact*

0

Anonymous #1 1d

well, they also campaigned on policies. project 2025 was a plan. Democrats don’t have one

-2

Anonymous #1 1d

they had no chance of winning, as evidenced by the landslide election. they lost the popular vote and every single swing state. Democrats won in 2020 because they actually ran on policy positions, things like student loan forgiveness and the Green New Deal (which Democrats could not even pass bc they cannot even maintain party discipline)

-1

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

“We won’t do bad things like project 2025” *really* should’ve been enough in 2024. It obviously wasn’t, but no need re-litigating all that 2 years later

0

Anonymous #1 1d

no, sorry. in the midst of a cost of living crisis and a deeply unpopular genocide, the best campaign position is probably not to double down on what the previous administration had failed to accomplish

-1

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

It wasn’t a landslide, a landslide means states like NJ, VA, and MN also flip and winning the popular vote by like 4-5%. This prob would’ve happened if biden stayed in

2

Anonymous _orangutan 1d

yeah the cost of living was a huge headwind heading into ‘24 for dems…and it’ll be a huge headwind heading into ‘26 for the gop 😂

4

Anonymous #2 1d

Whose pain; is more pressing, is what I’m asking? One group cannot physically feel pain mind you

1

Anonymous OP 1d

So you’re saying this is an issue of pain over death? Are you serious,

1

Anonymous #2 1d

Whose pain is more pressing? Why can’t you answer?

1

Anonymous OP 1d

Pain alone = Iranians Death alone = Aborted Babies Death outweighs pain as priority Therefore overall concern = Aborted Babies

1

Anonymous OP 1d

You’re being disingenuous and you know it man

1

Anonymous #2 1d

You’re not mentioning the hundreds of thousands of people who will lose healthcare thanks to the BBB, the millions of animals, the children who’ve been taken off snap, the USAID cuts that will cut disease prevention in different countries. Factor in those deaths, those generally slow and painful deaths

1

Anonymous #2 1d

You said you’d be busy after I gave you a valid reason why voting matters as if you’d actually be willing to listen to reason.

1

Anonymous OP 1d

So probably like 20,000 vs 1.1 million if we’re factoring that in

1

Anonymous #2 1d

15 million americans will lose healthcare, so no. while we’re talking about republican policies we can bring up how Trumps admin cut the queer suicide hotline (although I’m sure to you that’s good). At least 50k a month used it. To talk to someone so that they wouldn’t kill themselves, according to the CGD 700K are expected to die from USAID cuts, although by 2030 they expect that number globally to rise to 14 million.

1

Anonymous #2 1d

Factor in the 22K deaths studied by bloomberg that came from environmental cuts, Researchers found pulling back health subsidies, weakening Affordable Care Act (ACA) coverage, and underfunding public health infrastructure contributed to 461,000 excess U.S. deaths. So factor those in.

1

Anonymous OP 1d

I’ll admit you strengthened your original argument, but the yearly totals still don’t equate

1

Anonymous #2 1d

All things btw, that legislators are willing to reverse, because most of this came from the BBB or trumps agenda being uncontested but you don’t care

1

Anonymous #2 1d

So because their deaths happened outside of 2026 they no longer matter to you? You’re saying that 1.1 million people need to die on top of the ones that already did?

1

Anonymous #4 57m

*dies, i hope the party dies. (as in collapses)

1