Anonymous OP 1w

'pretend' because you don't know what virtue looks like. whats the alternative?... republicans?? democrats have a grassroots edge to them now, and are capable of criticizing their own party. that is virtue, not the double think you're fumbling over

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Anonymous #3 1w

you’re talking about democratic voters and democratic politicians like they are the same. that’s very much not the case. i’m talking about democratic politicians. the democratic party as a whole is the sadistic yang to the gop’s yin in the eternal performance they put on to keep us outraged and under control of our emotions that they inflict. if the democratic party actually cared about us they would have put a stop to this, but that would kill the cycle and take away their strongest leverage.

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Anonymous #3 1w

a politician’s job is not to serve the people, it’s to get reelected. if we want to be free, we have to stop giving them power and reclaim our sovereignty.

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Anonymous #4 1w

OP’s take (one that I agree with) usually emerges from a left-leaning perspective, operating on the premise that the theatre of American politics exist to assuage the poors of any potential ambitions they may have to organize. Right-wing politicians are ofc our enemies, but that doesn’t mean we should accept the democrats as our allies. They actively work to soften working class popular support and distract from any attempts to enact real substantive change.

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Anonymous #4 1w

To defend the Dems is tempting, as our only ostensibly anti-cruelty party, but ultimately counterproductive when it comes to working class coalition building. By aligning with the marginally less evil part, we risk alienating our working class peers that have been duped by the right by revealing that we, too, have been duped by our supposed “leftist” representatives.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Nah I mean you’re right but we’ve had that figured out for years. The only way to make change happen however is to pick a side. Unfortunately reality

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Anonymous #4 1w

Basically I’d say u have the right idea I’d say we have to identify with our own (respective) causes and fight for them through the big 2 parties to have any chance of making change

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Anonymous #4 1w

I personally believe the unfortunate reality we live in is one where the American uniparty has the proles of its nation convinced that buying into their political theater is our only means of prompting systemic change. In truth, we have seen the greatest rises in human living conditions in response to the efforts of organized labor. Our ancestors weren’t able to vote better material conditions into existence; the 5 day week didn’t emerge at the ballot box, but at the picket line.

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Anonymous #4 1w

I guess I just doubt that the big 2 parties care much for change in the direction of improving the lives of their constituents, to be honest. Both of them inevitably advocate for whatever political/corporate interest group is able to pay the most, and wealthy institutions tend to have very different goals and values than the average American. You could be right that our only option is to buy into the shitty system we currently find ourselves in, but I’m not especially confident in its future atp

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Anonymous #5 1w

Only thing u can really do is pressure the party with your vote. If they don’t appeal to you, don’t vote, simple as. No more “lesser of 2 evils”. Either that or become directly involved in government

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Anonymous #4 1w

this is incredibly ironic considering my whole point is that the democrats in power are the lesser of two evils ergo still evil. you are fundamentally mistaken if you think there's no choice but to play into their game. that's what they want you to think so you are able to be controlled. the "lesser of 2 evils" situation is created on purpose to make you think you have no choice, but you very much do and you're so close to understanding. voting harder for the democrats will not fix anything.

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Anonymous #4 1w

the republicans are attacking everyone's rights under false pretenses to stoke up their base and the democrats are lying about caring so they can stoke up their base. let go of the lie that the democrats are good. the fact that they are better than the gop is being used to distract you. open your eyes!!!

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Anonymous #6 1w

remind me which party is claiming to care about all of this while simultaneously doing nothing. this is not left vs right, it's up vs down. that is an objective fact of reality.

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Anonymous #6 1w

it seems you don't see lying and deceit as being as harmful at what the gop does, but it very much is as harmful, just in a different flavor.

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Anonymous #6 1w

can't you see all of this nonsense is a performance to keep us outraged and controlled by our emotions??? they want you to mad about all of this so you vote democratic again despite the dems doing nothing. they operate on false promises just like the gop does.

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Anonymous #6 1w

as a minority, the democratic party has continually betrayed me and my community. what's privileged is to continue supporting their evil. you cannot act of the behalf of the oppressed if you don't understand oppression.

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Anonymous #4 1w

you're also putting connotation on my position that very much is not there. i don't think we need to "rise up" in fact, "rising up" is apart of the problem. lashing out at the system only makes it stronger because it thrives off of our frustration. what we need to do is put down the tik tok, threads, twitter, instagram, etc. and just breathe. we must find our connections to ourselves and become sovereign again. become ungovernable. lead by example. do you want to see more fighting? i doubt it.

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Anonymous #4 1w

this turmoil will go on forever unless you and the rest of the dems and republicans stop contributing to it. you are collectively responsible for the continuation of all this devastation. trump wouldn't be in office you didn't yell at his base so much. the fact that he has support is the direct result of its opposition. in a way, newton's third law of motion also applies socially.

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Anonymous OP 1w

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