Anonymous #1 2d

It’s directly related.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Right but that random woman isn’t even related to the Super Bowl half time show.

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Anonymous #2 2d

And you’re right, it’s not morally justifiable. But the people who actively supporting a political figure that’s pro rape are republicans.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

No, but tbf it’s hypocritical for a leftist to claim “hate is stronger than love” then say something like “you deserve to be raped” Either don’t say the first or don’t say the second This is hypothetical though, she may not believe love is stronger than hate at all

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Anonymous #2 2d

Maybe hypocritical for that leftist specifically. But it’s hypocritical for a Republican to condemn anyone for being pro rape to begin with, given they support the arch mega rapist. They might be right, but they’re the only group not applying that standard to everyone.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

other people’s hypocrisy doesn’t justify one’s own hypocrisy

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Anonymous #2 2d

What’s hypocritical about what I’m saying?

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Anonymous #2 2d

Do we even know whether they’re totally lying about what the woman said? OOP never showed the video

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Anonymous #3 2d

True

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

“They’re the only group not applying that standard to everyone” Every group has in-group / out-group bias, leftists 100% sometimes defend other leftists simply because they’re leftists, it’s a basic psychological fact

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Anonymous #3 2d

no that’s why I said it’s a hypothetical, but even assuming it’s fake comes from a place of bias of assumption

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Anonymous #2 2d

… right okay. So you’re saying I’m a hypocrite because a leftist could, theoretically support a bad person…?

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Anonymous #2 2d

Like not even me, just any leftist?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

you said republicans are the only group that do that type of thing when in reality leftists do it all the time too

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Anonymous #2 2d

Right but people who voted Republican the last election are the only group where supporting a rapist is a prerequisite

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Anonymous #2 2d

Maybe it’s a bias of assumption, but I’ve also seen plenty of clips on Twitter where the caption totally misrepresents what happened or outright lies and it still goes viral. And the fact that anyone actually said this is so absurd it’s a bit difficult to believe

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Hate to say it but a lot of Trump voters likely had no idea he was a rapist, doesn’t make it okay, but it’s not like “Hm, this guy’s a rapist, doesn’t matter to me!” went through every Trump voter’s head

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Anonymous #2 2d

Trumps first ever scandals as a presidential candidate was him being recorded saying he sexually assaults women and they “let you do it when you’re famous”. After a certain point it’s your own fault.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Yeah were those clips played on Fox News to rural voters in the South repeatedly? Not everyone is privy to every single piece of info. Like I said, it’s not an excuse, but the idea that all Trump supporters support rape or don’t think it’s a problem is an overgeneralization the same way MAGA makes overgeneralizations

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Anonymous #2 2d

Yes?

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Anonymous #2 2d

Fox News absolutely played those clips or at least discussed them. And even if they didn’t, they aren’t literally cut off from the rest of the world, they KNOW he said that.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Kangmin Lee literally works for Benny Johnson, he’s not some random person in the south

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Anonymous #2 2d

Hell, they knew he said it so much, many put it on T shirts

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

A lot of them don’t lol, literally just ask a Trump supporter IRL, the way you talk ab them shows you don’t talk to them at all

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Anonymous #2 2d

I literally live in rural Pennsylvania I can promise you every Republican I’ve ever talked politics with has been aware of that and just didn’t care. Again, people wore “grab em by the pussy” T shirts in 2016. To maga rallies. This wasn’t some secret hidden by the right wing media. They leaned into it.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

the Trump supporters in Colorado genuinely have no idea he said any of that, especially the younger people that are of college age or slightly older

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Anonymous #2 2d

I don’t believe you.

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Anonymous #2 2d

I think that’s cope.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Are we talking about Trump supporters in CO or an influencer who gets 123k views and works for a Russian asset?

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Anonymous #2 2d

And even if they didn’t, what have there been like a hundred thousand other scandals since?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Brother I’m out there talking to them and changing minds and hearts, it’s possible, the people that say it isn’t care more about moral superiority than acc trying to make a difference or make change

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Anonymous #2 2d

Nah. They weren’t blind to every scandal. They KNEW what he was like, and they liked it.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

It’s highly likely that some college kids who were like 12 when that Access Hollywood tape came out have no clue about it now

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Anonymous #2 2d

I didn’t say it was impossible to change minds but I’m telling you that you’re treating adult humans like stupid children and refusing to give them any responsibility for their own actions.

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Anonymous #3 2d

Nobody should care ab twitter influencers they’re all grifters and most of them don’t gaf ab politics like that, the idea that Trump supporters hold the same view as the grifters that say insensitive things for money is absurd

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

yeah some adults are stupid, people make mistakes, people are ignorant you can wish it wasn’t true but it is, you can either live in denial or address the world as it is lots of Americans genuinely think their tax dollars go to housing undocumented immigrants

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Anonymous #2 2d

I’m not saying they can’t make mistakes I’m saying you can’t just refuse to hold people accountable for their mistakes.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

what would you do to hold them accountable? Prison? Gulags? Fines?

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Anonymous #2 2d

Sure, maybe

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Anonymous #2 2d

How would you hold accountable those who voted for the Nazi party?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

N/A, wouldn’t do anything unless they acc did something

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Anonymous #2 2d

Well look how that turned out ig

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Anonymous #2 2d

Right back where we started lol

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Yeah Germany is fine lol

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

I think you overestimate the impact of voting / the responsibility voting holds Should we hold Biden voters accountable for the genocide in Gaza?

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Anonymous #2 2d

If Biden had campaigned on screwing over Gaza? Yes.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Yeah, then every single U.S. citizen should be held responsible for everything our leaders do, we all deserve to go to jail by your logic

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Anonymous #2 2d

If the leader campaigns on doing a bad thing? Yeah maybe bro.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

alright all Americans to prison, problem solved your inability to escape idealism and ideology to acc encounter and engage with the real world is insufferable, you care more about not doing wrong than doing anything right

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Anonymous #2 2d

What president other than trump has campaigned on committing war crimes and doing illegal shit?

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Anonymous #2 2d

If you can find one then sure arrest everyone who voted for them too. But nah, this wouldn’t encompass every American.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Bush, Obama, Nixon, etc.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Really? What crimes did they campaign on committing?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

War on terror and Vietnam war were both illegal under international law

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Anonymous #2 2d

They campaigned explicitly on doing illegal things?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Yeah like I said, war on terror / Vietnam war were illegal under international law

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Anonymous #2 2d

there are bad people on both sides. she is a one of those people. we haven't voted for her or defended her. you cannot be anti-rape and vote for the man who raped and murdered children. you just think it's "proof the other side" is bad/worse. this woman is a random woman no one knows. the right's rapist is the president.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Sorry I was in class. Those may have been (arguably) illegal, but it’s just not on the same level as trump and pretending otherwise is dishonest

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