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I fought in ww2 and I am scared shitless of a song about holding your girl’s hand

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I think assuming someone is satanist and demonic because they’re communist is kinda the fragility we’re talking about here man

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That was all John and he was a champagne socialist at best

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Anti christ? Wait til you find out what everyone thought of black metal in the 80s

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Satan doesn’t exist man.

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That didn’t really start until the 1930s under Stalin and by then the he had also purged the Bolsheviks. I’m no communist but I notice I see a different figure for that every single time it’s mentioned. 60 million? That’s VASTLY inflated and doesn’t even sound like total deaths under 70 years total

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I’m pretty sure you mean to say it IS a secularized political movement. But out of curiosity let me ask, if people created an economic system based on Jesus’ teachings, do you think it’d more closely resemble modern capitalism, or communism? Because I’d argue most of the New Testament is pretty strictly against the whole hoarding wealth and exploiting people thing and definitely more aligned with the “feed and house everyone” camp

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I’m not denying it happened but 60 million is like more than a third of everyone of all religions who lived in Russia at the time. That’s Black Plague levels of death

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Like I just don’t know that it makes sense to extrapolate from “The Beatles wanted to explore alternative economic systems that would promote unity and everyones’ wellbeing” to “they were trying to pervert society with their demonic beliefs”

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Not denying it at all it was definitely millions and millions. 60 seems extreme

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Well that’s just objectively wrong seeing as communism is a fundamentally atheistic. And monarchy is not an economic system, it’s a political system

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Anonymous OP 3w

*is fundamentally atheistic

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The thing about the Holocaust I use to shut down deniers is the fact in Rwanda 800,000 ppl were killed in 90 days with machetes. Now add gas chambers to that plus 4 years. It checks out. Bolshevik revolution was also about 4 years, but multiplying the figure by 10x.

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Satanism is an entire belief system whereas atheism is just the belief there is no god. That’s like if I said Catholicism and Mormonism are two wings of the same bird because they both believe in Jesus

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Saying two things are “wings of the same bird” would imply that they’re basically the same thing explained differently. I think Christians would oppose the idea that their beliefs/actions are equal to those of Muslims or Jews, just like they’d reject that as well. Because it’s not true

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Sure, that’s a good way to explain it. But I don’t think the metaphor applies to atheism and Satanism just like it doesn’t apply to Christianity and Islam. Atheism and Satanism were first articulated in completely different historical contexts for entirely different reasons. The Greeks were discussing atheism before Jesus was even born. Similarly those who ascribe to Christianity and Islam (or Mormonism to go back to my original example) probably wouldn’t say they pull for the same things

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Anonymous bisexualmaozedong 3w

Not to mention Siouxsie and the Banshees writing a whole song about the Iranian Cultural revolution in 1981, Green Day in literally anything from the 90s to 2000s, Bob Marley in literally anything in the 60s-70s, Joan Baez and Bob Dylan from the 60s to now, The Kinks singing about Trans people in the 70s, Marilyn Manson in counter institutional imagery, Inkkubus in megalomaniac, and the entire formation of the punk scene.

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