Anonymous #2 1w

They’re both problems dumbass. They just say whatever will keep viewership up so they can appease their corporate overlords.

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Anonymous #2 1w

CNN is not fake news. Discrediting mainstream media is a fascist tactic. You’ve been duped.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Just throwing all ur vocab words out huh, do yk what a fascists actually is?

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Anonymous #2 1w

I have a fairly sophisticated understanding of what a fascist is, yes.

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Anonymous #4 1w

CNN has already been found to spread fake news

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Anonymous #2 1w

All news companies or individual reporters make occasional errors that result in retractions of the fraudulent stories, but please do cite evidence that they are knowingly promoting objectively incorrect propaganda as Fox News is.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Just last December CNN had to admit their Syria report was wrong. They claimed a man was tortured for months in prison, but it turned out he was actually an Assad intelligence officer detained for a month on extortion charges.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Also CNN is literally being sued by Project Veritas right now because they falsely claimed Veritas was banned from Twitter for spreading disinformation. A federal appeals court revived the case last November because there was enough evidence CNN may have acted with actual malice.

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Anonymous #4 1w

We’ll see what happens with the lawsuit. But do you know why CNN "had to admit" that their report was wrong? It’s because they are a generally reliable source of news. As I said, retractions are issued somewhat rarely for inaccurate claims, and this is characteristic of a credible news company that must maintain trust among its readers, who have an interest in accuracy. Fox News continues to spout lies with impunity because their readers or viewers simply like to have their biases confirmed.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Calling CNN ‘reliable’ because they retract stories after they’re caught is like calling a liar honest because they eventually admit it. Reliability is getting it right the first time.

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Anonymous #2 1w

If you insist on analogizing these formal occupations and practices such as journalism to individual behavior, then retracting a story is not admitting that one has lied. It is admitting that one is wrong. There is a difference, and yes, the latter tends to be the virtue of an honest person, even on the individual level. The same virtues are valued among scientists and research journals who retract fraudulent articles in light of new evidence.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You might be implementing the Nirvana fallacy here. Humans are imperfect. And ultimately, one’s individual knowledge always comes from other people. All we can expect is that the people we place our trust in to provide accurate knowledge adheres to practices and methodologies that mitigate error, not eliminate it entirely.

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Anonymous #2 1w

In the philosophy of science, your perspective of the Nirvana fallacy is referred to as pessimistic meta-induction. It is completely ridiculous to lack trust in science because scientists used to believe that the Earth was at the center of the solar system. A reliable means of acquiring knowledge is not perfectly correct. It is just more correct than it has ever been previously. There is continuous improvement.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Appreciate the philosophy lecture, but none of that changes the fact CNN has repeatedly gotten stories wrong. Reliable means getting it right first, not writing essays to excuse mistakes.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You’ve said nothing new here. You just repeated the same point that I have already responded to. No, reliability is not perfection. That is the Nirvana fallacy.

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