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What the hell liberals why is it allowed to use Native American references in sports in appropriate ways but not call them Redskins or Indians
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Anonymous 10w

All of them are bad, actually

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Anonymous 10w

You do know why certain teams are allowed, right?

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Anonymous 10w

Yk that term is a slur right?

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Anonymous 10w

Well let me explain it this way. Chiefs - Back in the late 80s they changed the mascot to a wolf and almost exclusively focus on that wolf angle. Blackhawks - named after a tribe leader, with the team being in close relationship with that tribe still, having banned fake Native American headdresses and stuff that is offensive to their culture FSU Seminoles - FSU has a longstanding relationship with the tribe, their main mascot is named in honor of a former leader, and they’ve taken similar act

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Anonymous 10w

Bro Redskins was so peak

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

I think a case could be made to keep braves but the rest are bad for sure

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 10w

Actions to the Blackhawks in making their stuff less offensive. Braves - This is the only one I’m pretty iffy on defending because they seem to be in some hot water right now about their use of the tomahawk and the origin of their name. And now for the bad ones and why they’re bad

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 10w

Washington - If it wasn’t obvious, red skin is a slur referring to the color of the skin of Native Americans. Cleveland - The logo is a further embodiment of “red skins”. And their former name Indians implies they are from India, as Columbus thought when he raped and committed genocide against indigenous people.

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Anonymous replying to -> thereal._.ruckus 10w

Yeah that’s what they’re pointing out from the banned side of the list

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 10w

OP is asking why we can’t not pointing out why it’s bad

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 10w

It’s also worth noting that FSU was talking to the Seminole nation *of florida*, and ignores that fact that the much larger Seminole nation of Oklahoma has been telling them to change their mascot for a long time.

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Anonymous replying to -> thereal._.ruckus 10w

Yk why that was the logo right? The family it represents?

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Anonymous replying to -> thereal._.ruckus 10w

No I’m saying the twitter post is dumb because there’s nothing really offensive about calling a team the Chiefs, Seminoles, or Blackhawks (admittedly Braves is a bit iffy). Naming a team a literal slur or “Indians” with a bright red offensive caricature of a Native American is clearly inappropriate.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

The face is based on an actual person which was done out of honor. Apparently red is a symbolic color of healing for their people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 10w

Yeah for some reason I have a pretty hard time believing that

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Believe it https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/07/a-native-american-designed-washingtons-logo-now-his-family-want-it-back

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Sorry for the misinterpretation

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 10w

Each of the teams that are “allowed” have asked for and received permission from the tribes that are near the community. That’s why.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 10w

Redskins was designed by an actual tribe

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 10w

Not the name.

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Anonymous replying to -> thereal._.ruckus 10w

You’re good I was trying to be sarcastic

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