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Never said it was good, it’s obviously bad. I’m making a point by asking a question dipshit.

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I haven’t made the point yet I just asked a question 🫩. You guys are so desperate to spaz out and find something I say problematic. If I had all these secret evil opinions I would just share them it’s an anonymous app lol.

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Also this is the first time I ever asked this question to my knowledge, what a weird rewriting of history.

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So my point was gonna be just like how having rich people capture democracy creates bad incentives so does having a one party state.

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Yeah I’m pro capitalism but I’m against democracies being totally captured by private interest. I didn’t say “what’s so bad with capitalism” we’re just inventing quotes in our head. I don’t even think you get what I was saying originally.

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Also I like how being defensive after you spazzed out after I asked one question lol.

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Op is openly for one party states. No that’s not what I’m implying lol.

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I wasn’t going to get involved in this, but yes, I support [Marxist] one-party states. I see working-class intraparty democracy as superior to ruling-class multiparty democracy for a variety of reasons.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 31w

I feel like it’s kind of self evident why a Democratic system being captured by the rich and powerful is a problem

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I’ve talked to op before, they are lol, op can just correct me if I’m wrong on that.

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Lmao see I told you.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 31w

Yes I’m making a point about how you’re contradicting yourself I’m not just asking why it’s wrong lmao. Idk why that’s super confusing for everyone.

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Anonymous blue__wave 31w

And if you claim to be against the capture of Democratic systems by an elite that has a lot of capital, I wonder why on earth would you ask me that question to begin with?

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Anonymous xi.jinping 31w

Bc it’s a contradiction, bc a one party state is made up of a group of elites that have no incentive to listen to the people they’re governing just like if rich people captured a democracy.

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Again I feel like an internal critique shouldn’t be this hard of a concept but ig it is lol. I’ll make it clear every time I ask a question what my specific intent is bc that’s apparently needed.

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No I’m used to the constant reading into my intentions instead of just addressing what I’m saying. I’m sure you’ll be doing it in another couple of days so I forgive you when you do it then too.

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It’s not assuming nefarious intentions it’s looking at what they’re incentivized to do. What’s a worker led one party state that you think hasn’t fallen into some kind of authoritarianism?

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I didn’t but you assumed the worst that’s my point lol. You can just ask me if I think that’s a bad thing next time. Instead going on an entire pointless ramble where you end up being wrong. I’m just trying to help you save time.

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Sure and I’m glad you apologized but I’m going pretty hard after it bc the constant intention reading I run into is annoying so I’m cool with going after people for it.

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Again I’m not assuming outcomes I’m looking at what they’re incentivized to do, and their behavior matches up with their incentivizes that’s my point. Sure but they don’t, most “worker parties” currently head authoritarian weird state capital states.

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Anonymous blue__wave 31w

I see what you’re trying to say and I genuinely don’t think you understand how the Marxist DotP works, Capital is not the ruling force of China, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos, or Cuba. Market formations and rich people exist but they are subservient to the state apparatus, not the other way around. The state apparatus is subservient in turn to the party and the working population more broadly

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Anonymous xi.jinping 31w

You’re not understanding what I’m saying. I’m talking about the state apparatus, the state doesn’t have an incentive to listen to the people they govern like a liberal democracy would.

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Anonymous xi.jinping 31w

Why would a leader of a one party state prioritize what’s best for their people over their own personal power? There’s no real electoral punishment like there would be in a liberal democracy.

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