Anonymous #1 20h

German nazis, and Ukrainian Nazis?😭

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Anonymous #3 20h

Siberian tribals, Estonians, Lithuanian, Latvians, Poles, Finns, Volga Germans to name a few

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Anonymous #3 20h

The entire Volga German ethnicity weren’t Nazis. But if you wanted the list it’s Volga and other Germans, Crimean Tatars, Chechens, Ingush, Crimean and Caucasus Greeks, Crimean Italians, Ingrian and Karelian Finns, Chinese, Koreans, Kalmyks, Balkars, Karachays, Karapapakhs, Meshketian Turks, Armenian Azerbaijanis, Crimean Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians, Persians, Talysh, Crimean Bulgarians, poles, and I’m probably missing some

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Anonymous #1 20h

Stalin basically just deported a bunch of ethnicities he thought were suspicious and in border regions. Had Stalin not died during the Doctor’s Plot case, Jews may have been the next targeted group.

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Anonymous #1 20h

It was the Russian equivalent of order 9066. They had lived in Russia since the time of Cathrine the Great

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Anonymous #1 19h

Which is materially different than the practices of the United States how exactly? The Jew line is also an unsubstantiated inflammatory hypothetical😭

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Anonymous #3 19h

It’s not which is why it’s the same as Order 9066. Except this was on a much larger scale

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Anonymous #3 19h

Yeah man the USA putting Japanese people into internment camps was bad too. I think we all know that. Stalin just did it at a much larger scale, with a higher death count, more permanently, and in a number of cases not during wartime.

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Anonymous #1 19h

Like the Japanese internments it was geographically dependent too. Japanese in Hawaii weren’t subject to total internment like those on the mainland (due to their large population and economic influence). Stalin didn’t target ethnicities who weren’t on the Soviet periphery as heavily.

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Anonymous #1 19h

That’s not the only time the USA has engaged in abusive deportations; it also doesn’t actually address the point of post, which (accurately) raises the point that the United States government intentionally mischaracterizes the USSR

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Anonymous #3 19h

This also isn’t the only time such deportations. How is it mischaracterized?

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Anonymous #3 19h

Stalin’s deportations and American deportations can both be bad. America created concentration camps in the Philippines ffs. They aren’t mutually exclusive. I don’t like the description of massive ethnic cleansing campaigns as “wasn’t perfect.”

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Anonymous evil_sheep 19h

The CIA has admitted to mischaracterizing it numerous times? They did it in operation mockingbird and they admit to it on their own website?

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Anonymous #1 19h

I mean we’re kind of splitting hairs over semantics if that’s your issue

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Anonymous #3 19h

Look when someone (or a group of someones in the Soviet government) commits ethnic cleansing that kills hundreds of thousands at minimum, that needs to be treated with gravity, not dismissed as an oopsie.

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Anonymous #3 19h

It talks about the period of change between Stalin and Khrushchev. At the beginning of Khrushchev control in 195?. The document is Talking about how collective leadership may happen if not influenced by the West. Stating the idea of another Stalin is unlikely but not out of the realm of possibility Khrushchev may not have had a cult of personality but he did have his own favorites when it came to power I don’t thinks this is to bad of a characterization given the Soviet Unions previous leaders.

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Anonymous #3 19h

This also doesn’t explain why we mischaracterized Stalin

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Anonymous evil_sheep 19h

OP didn’t offer any thoughts on why they mischaracterized Stalin, just that they did - a demonstrably true point that you denied, as though you expected the famously dishonest United States government to be honest about its political enemies

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Anonymous #3 19h

Ok so how was he Mischaracterized? ( I ment to say that). Who isn’t dishonest with political enemies?

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Anonymous evil_sheep 5h

You repeated the mischaracterization in this comment section when you said the deportations were ethnic cleansing when they were actually purging suspected Nazi collaborators lol? Sure it wasn’t a great plan and it was wrongful collective punishment, but what would you have done differently, given you’re a political savant?

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Anonymous #3 5h

It’s ethnic cleansing when “suspected Nazi collaborators” means all the men, women, and children of an ethnic group. Do you think all the Koreans in far eastern Russia were Nazi collaborators? Be so fr.

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Anonymous #1 5h

“Of an ethnic group” is another mischaracterization when the deportations programs were geographically based - lmao I bet you take the black book of communism seriously too

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Anonymous #3 5h

They were ethnically based. Chechens and Ingush were deported to Kazakhstan while Caucasus Jews and Russians were not.

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Anonymous #1 4h

The deportation of Armenian Azerbaijanis was also an explicit attempt to remove the ethnic minority population from Armenia. Meshketian Turks were never accused of any axis collaboration. They were deported anyways because they were a Turkic ethnic group located near the Turkish border. The same was the case for Assyrians, Persians, and Kurds near the border with Iran.

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Anonymous #3 4h

Not force relocate people after a war is over for start. The population force relocation happened after the war as well. Instead of helping the Nazis invade Poland support the Polish army to hold the border. Or when the German army moves to France invade and liberate Poland. Not purge my military of competent leaders. Make a non aggression pact with Finland instead of invading them then force relocation of people. You could also question why people would be Nazi collaborators.

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Anonymous #3 4h

Do not invade the baltics and offer guarantees of independence instead of invading causing them to become Nazi collaborators I could go on

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