
enemyofmyenemy
“Incredibly necessary” means topics you can scream the same talking points about without having to make any effort to understand them Most people are not informed enough to explain why these are both stupid positionsI’ve beat the electoral college thing to death lately universal healthcare seems to deny the reality we live in scarcity, you need to incentivize creation and research and development, keep pressure on prices downward, gotta keep in mind there’s only so much medicine, having the government ration it on a national level is a bad idea
Okay well I haven’t been on here “lately” so no copouts. We do live in scarcity, but especially with regard to things like healthcare, it is artificial. I don’t know where you got the idea that universal healthcare means no innovation, can’t drive down prices, and “makes the government ration it on a national level”
and the electoral college is shit, though i think people are deluded if they think that a multitude of capitalist parties would somehow be better in a more proportional model. the coalition governments in Europe are also notoriously stagnant and rife with disparity, albeit less than here
The scarcity, again, is artificial, because that’s market logic. Malthus predicted levels of scarcity that would result in disaster, only to be proven wrong time and time again as people innovated and worked around. We don’t even have the actual scarcity in that scenario, the “Malthusian” conditions here are imposed, but people still support this privatized system that results in sky high prices
I don’t like our current healthcare system I’m not a centrist I find that developed countries have a bad habit of doing the following: ) buying medicine not at market prices, which is bad ) providing as much cheap medicine as possible to keep most people fairly satisfied with basic care ) ration care that eliminates high end options Americans have access to ) sending people fake bills for $0 so they think it’s free ) calling all this “universal healthcare”
A mixed system. How in the world can you have Medicare and Medicaid and think we have a privatized healthcare system. The market for TVs is private. Not healthcare. If there was a government program making cheap TVs for poor people it would not be a nationally privatized tv market.
So. Your argument. Is that it’s not a privatized healthcare system if most of it is private but there’s SOME government assistance? Does that mean that subsidies in industries make those industries not private? Or that because the government owns the national parks tourism in this country isn’t a private industry?
but the rate of profit, because of constant reinvestment of capital and the increasing costs of production (BLOAT), has a tendency to fall over time. this is a product of capitalist ownership of production, and production being driven by capital reproduction and profitability
It’s an issue of scale. The most efficient way to get Advil to my aunt is for me to give it to her directly. Once I have to give 10 million people Advil it becomes a lot harder. There’s 350 million people in the country. Providing cheap medicine is not inherently bad, outside of a vacuum you have to consider a lot of other factors. In public policy, you are incapable of giving everyone everything they want. You have to decide what you’re going to prioritize.
One of the best things of other countries’ systems is things like cheap insulin, which makes how we handle cheap non-over the counter medicine look insane. But that’s just one part of healthcare. They are choosing that because it’s an easy “fix” Eventually you’re going to have to produce other things, deal with shortages, see how it affects the prices of other non prioritized medicines, etc