
To #4 A lot of drag isn’t sexually dancing or dressing sexually. It’s just not about that. There’s actually a lot of drag that is focused on activism (climate for example). I know there’s a large narrative against it (my father once believed it) but when you actually look into the subject you’ll realize it’s basically a theatrical expression of a character. Shakespeare did it, the Greeks did it, as did Indian and Russian culture.
As a left wing person, I have to admit that we do indeed have extremists. Think about PETA or the extreme side of veganism, it’s like that. It’s the people who like to use things like pronouns as an excuse to police other peoples’ words, or who find cultural appropriation in everything. Still better than celebrating that a non binary child died to bullying tho.
By feeding into discourse like this, you become the problem. Typically, on both sides, you will find lots of common ground with “extremists” due to simple things such as a shared humanity. When you fail to acknowledge that you could be swayed by media and close mindedness, or such open mindedness that your brain falls out, you fail to be progressive and become less of an individual and more someone that fits into a bureaucratic machine as a red or blue cog.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person in the US or any other country of any political party make an argument like “10 year olds should give birth” Are these the two wolves fighting inside you OP? Stop feeding the guy/wolf/whatever that is on the left. (Weird set up the way this meme is formatted)
Its sexual to you cuz it turns you on but there is nothing inherently sexual about drag, its literally just putting on clothes and makeup, you dont have to be a specific sexuality or gender to partake and it is completely harmless. If you somehow think its going to hurt a child more them literally being raped then you should be in jail brah
Well if a drag show is gonna have those things then obviously its gonna be 18+, just like any other form of entertainment that includes nudity or sexual themes, no one is advocating to bring their kids there, however a drag queen say reading a book to some kids is hurting absolutely no one
It’s a uniparty divided on the exact lines it needs to be to keep those with less assets quarreling among ourselves rather than recognizing the same lobbies are funding both political parties for the sake of keeping up the appearance of opposition. Both parties common people don’t seem to like flock cameras, whatever the deal is with these data centers and water (?), obviously pedophile islands, etc. But if they keep us pointing fingers at one another and not the lobbyists, we see less 1/2
does it need to be someone explicitly saying "10 year olds should give birth"? or will you accept that like 99.9% of republicans voted against a law protecting people's right to travel for medical care (including abortion) as the story about the 10 year old rape victim who had to go to another state to get an abortion was the big story of the time?
You’re the person who was stupid enough to vote for him. He was a horrible businessman and sexual predator prior to the 2016 election. His first term was a cluster fuck of destroying our global relations and severely mishandling the pandemic. Prior to the 2024 election, he formally became an adjudicated rapist. You and every single person who voted for him are fucking clowns or straight up awful people.
As an Alabamian, child marriage may be legal to some extent but it is very highly frowned upon. It is famously extremely pervasive in countries ruled under Islamic law compared to that in any US state. While it’s true that it should be illegal here, claiming that Alabama and Afghanistan are comparable in that regard is willful ignorance at best
They’re both disturbing, but I’m confused as to why people don’t focus on the problems that are closer in proximity. I also have to mention that CSA is rampant just about everywhere but especially in red states, which also have higher crime rates overall, and within various churches including FDS.
people can marry as low as either 14 or 15 in the states. idgaf if it requires parental consent or not. i also dgaf about iran when the post is about right wingers and left wingers in AMERICA. wtaf does iran have to do with this post? nothing; its deflection and whataboutism directed at groups that aren't even relevant what have you to say about the fact that CSA and child marriage are still legal in the US, and most common in red states? nothing?
Do you just spend all day like.. skewing maps or are you like a parrot who repeats everything a few sources tell you about a topic? Hold on I’ll pull one up. I would be willing to bet most of the crime is the blue counties of the red states… and I’m 99% certain Cali and NY are not red states. Or Illinois… Maybe Florida and Texas, but def not Cali, NY, or Illinois. But who knows, they may flip.
Yeah I’m not even gonna blame it on a political party, this one is homicides. Go figure, where people are packed tight (Cali cities, NY, near Chicago, yeah sure all blue states but same goes with FL and that’s been going Republican more and more often… so… makes sense the title of the politicians doesn’t account for an increase in homicide.
Forgive my dismissive tone, your right people should focus more locally about what they can do to prevent local sex slave trade. One thing I’ll bear witness to that while I wasn’t present (I’m sort of oath bound to intervene, long story) in Alabama when it was occurring, I can attest the incest joke isn’t as much of a joke as I had hoped it was being a northerner moving south, and once friends opened up to me… there is an issue with child predators nearly everywhere, cities, rural, islands etc.
If we have the capability to prevent children from being raped anywhere in the world I would much rather we expend our missiles/focus destroying regimes that support that than for regional conflicts to feed the military industrial complex. We can’t exactly drop tomahawk’s in all the cities and rural towns domestically that have child predators imbedded in an apartment building. We must be extra surgical at home.
Yeah it’s expressing a subscription service to purchasing/obtaining things/hormones associated with sexuality. Heck, the history of modern day high heels were designed to accentuate the legs and butt to be more sexually appealing. Don’t get me wrong I’m not against high heels, but let’s not put a veneer of altruism around sexually based gender identities.
I’m also all for the pre-1970 standard dating back thousands of years (common law dating all the way back to the laws of Mosus) where the penalty for rape is death. Behaviors, cultures, routines, whatever you wish to call them, grow like bacterial cultures in a similar mathematical sense. If they are allowed to persist, they multiply.
99% of people on any end of the political spectrum can’t confirm closer to 100% of the things they say relative to politics. (Especially now that deepfakes are common) There’s no way of insuring anyone is speaking the truth unless they can confirm what they said with eye witness testimony + maybe physical evidence.
There is a lot of ambiguity surrounding their death, but the story was that Nex Benedict got into a physical altercation with his bullies, and then died later due to suicide by drug toxicity. It is speculated that it was an accident caused by confusion because Nex hit his head on the bathroom floor and was hurt enough by his bullies to black out, so the head injuries might have clouded their judgement or caused confusion.
I’ll tell you as someone who’s more deeply entrenched in the reporting of crimes formally than most, witness statements are some of the hardest threads to pull when dealing with a situation of this nature. If the description of the assailants is just “three girls”, the agent/officer doing the investigation would either have to interview all girls at that school, or someone, perhaps a teacher would have to come forward and give a witness statement noting the absence of three female students 1/2
2/2 that matched the timeframe of the attack. And if ANY of the witnesses timeframes didn’t match, the case would fall apart. You couple that with cell phone data that tracks GPS coordinates within 3 meters, and again, if there is even the slightest deviation of the witness statement becomes an obstruction that would let whomever really did the crime off the hook. Witnesses often trying to help, end up derailing an entire investigation by giving broad suggestive evidence that doesn’t match.
There’s this… I wouldn’t call it a flaw in human memory, more like an evolved glitch? That fills in blanks using the imagination on small details especially relative to time and anchored thoughts around timeframes. It can be sifted through, but once a statement is made and written down, there’s no changing it. If the witness changes their statement the DA is going to be very hesitant to put them in front of a jury and let the defense tear them apart for remembering two different things.
People like you are smart enough to know you can’t blatantly be homophobic, so you try to skirt around it, as if finding some legal loophole in morality and getting away with what is objectively bigotry. And then when we call you out, you act like we are unreasonable because you said in a polite way, except that polite tone was hollow and dishonest. It’s clear who you are
Exactly. This person is trying to do the whole “both sides suck” thing and I hate it. It’s not selfish at all. Denying so is how people like trump get away with it because people become scared to speak up, and things only spiral. Sometimes you gotta speak up your opinion and stand up to others wrong opinions.
What if your loved ones are wrong, though? What if their politics are hurting others and make them awful people? Because we really shouldn’t allow them to get away just because they’re family, for it comes off as selfish to the victims of their awfulness. It’s like if your friend is a bully but you never stand up to them. You’re just as bad as the bully and failed to fix the core issue, instead enabling them. That and also for as flawed as liberals are, right wingers are way more objectively bad
It literally says in Wikipedia that child marriage is objectively allowed. I know you might say “but it’s for 17 year olds!” That’s saying so little. Even though 18 is a better threshold, there’s a reason most 18 year olds don’t get married then, even if it’s technically legal for them to in most of the world. Reducing the age by a year only makes things worse.
i just saw that you replied... and your reply is "we can't bomb rural america so we should bomb people in countries because things that occur in the states are happening there"... and of course the irony of you saying "expend missiles/focus destroying regimes that support that than for regional conflicts to feed the military industrial complex" is that IT IS THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ""DESTROYING"" THE REGIMES. and look how that's going in iran 😂 we're getting spanked dude
If you can acknowledge that this is a purely subjective view, no matter your thoughts, then this is okay to say 🙂↕️! Objectively there is no pure good “side” and who you decide is better is a matter of “who better lines up with my beliefs?” Which is flawed due to the property of people to not be perfect, or potentially lacking information, etc.
There’s such a thing as inter subjective though, where certain moral beliefs are held by a majority of people. This also falls into the continuum fallacy, where one believes that because something can’t precisely split up, no definition or objective qualities exist for it. Also a lot of politics aren’t subjective, like racial equality, gender equality, the effectiveness and safety of vaccines, etc. I hate that people keep insisting we get along with bad politics.
- Higher taxes would be for the wealthiest 1%. You’re not going to be a billionaire, and trickle down is a myth. - Defunding police means allocating part of bloated law enforcement budgets to community-based solutions like improving economic conditions and education, which are proven to reduce crime, as well as restructuring police to answer to their community for violations of conduct instead of getting off free for abuse of power.
- While I personally don’t support open borders and most Democrats don’t either, I’d love for you to explain why it’s so harmful. If your contention is about public safety because we’re unable to vet immigrants coming into the country, I think that’s entirely stupid given we don’t even vet American citizens who commit crime at a higher proportion than illegal immigrants.
- The right to own a firearm is constitutionally enshrined and should continue to be. But reasonable restrictions should be in place to prevent mass shootings. The number one cause of death for children in our country is school shootings. Do you agree that we should have background checks and keep guns away from violent and/or mentally unstable people? - Socialism doesn’t exist in America. The DSA refers to “democratic socialism,” which is progressive policy under the framework of capitalism.
- Not sure where you got lockdowns from. If you’re referring to COVID, I think you should maybe study how massively contagious and lethal diseases have been handled throughout history. Quarantines are the first line of defense. - The current administration is consolidating power in the executive to an unprecedented level. If you dislike big government but support this administration, you are a hypocrite.
Datacenter issue is not the water, it’s the electricity they use. Most data centers that use water are either close looped(high upfront usage very low maintenance usage) or use evaporative cooling on extremely hot days, which just puts the water back into atmosphere and will eventually turn into rain.
But the actual debate is about life versus personhood. Life means nothing to most people when divorced from things like sentience, cognitive capabilities, etc. No one gives a fuck about life itself. People kill insects without a care, go hunting, etc. Then people say the life is important because it’s human. Well, what makes it human? You don’t perceive DNA, you perceive personhood through personality, ability to feel joy and pain, etc. Personhood cannot begin prior to 20-22 weeks of gestation
You just destroyed your own argument. You are correct. Laws are flawed. Go ahead. Smash the bird eggs and don’t feel like shit after. The mental gymnastics you have to do to justify ending 1 billion lives is insane. All because of responsibility. Call it what ever you want. Sure legalize abortion. You still ended 1 billion lives. Smash the bird eggs.
You’re fully contradicting yourself, though. I’m trying to establish something beyond subjectivity as a metric for ethics, but if we’re going to move past that since you’re pointing out a contradiction in the legal system, then no I don’t believe fetuses are inherently worthy of life beyond the womb. They aren’t people. They have no memories, no capacity to form emotions or feel pain, no personality, not even a single thought before ~22 weeks of gestation. This is the indisputable science.
If you value all human life regardless of personhood or the stage of biological development, then as a thought experiment, you should be just as willing to blowtorch an entire room full of Petri dishes with zygotes in them as you would be blowtorching a room full of newborns. Correct?
Interesting you point out the freshwater. My summer job tracks salt water and geothermal activity and the current data is so bizarre I doubt they will ever publish it as an official report (takes the wind right out of the sails of climate change theories, they had the concepts inverted, threat isn’t coming from above so much as it is building below us in the foundations of the earth) But ice bergs are cracking, salt water isn’t rising even in the ballpark of initial predictions, we calculate1/
2/2 micro-fissures building beneath… strangely enough, areas of dense rock with short distances to human dense populations. The leading theory is because we are now emitting 1x10^15 EMR of the microwave spectrum from the surface of the earth when compared to pre industrial era (that spectrum of energy was only emitted from stars and the atmosphere) It’s cracking plates through the cooling and heating of the water closer to the source (similar to why roads crack each winter) In any case, 2/2
Lmao you quite literally just implied a value gradient. Clown. There is no logical fallacy, and no I don’t believe you or any conservative in this thread actually believes all life is priceless. Do you eat meat? Have you ever killed an animal or bug or insect? Already contradicted
Of course there is a value gradient silly 🤪! The pricelessness I am referring to is akin to there being different sizes of infinity. All priceless but not equivalent. Unfortunately for your guess work I am not conservative, and I do see all life as priceless. I actually relocate bugs whenever possible and I respect the life of animals I eat by using the energy they provide to live a healthy and active life. I can consider life to be priceless and respect the natural order of things.
Reply formatting on tiktak is silly but I agree with the gradient comment. It’s a context thing. I’ll demonstrate! A situation arises where you must save 1 adult or 100 fetuses. Situation one is regular, present day earth. Answer to S1 is the 1 adult. Situation two is dead earth humans nearly extinct, both parties are on a spaceship. Answer is S2. Why? Because the 100 fetuses have a higher chance of repopulating. Both priceless, but to what extent is context. Understood?
That’s exactly why I said “you or any conservative” but okay sure. And you’re saying the values of “life is priceless” and “following the natural order of things” by eating other animals is compatible, but that then implies that the action following your belief (“life is priceless”) isn’t to conserve all life, which then makes me confused as to why you’re commenting on this thread. A human woman’s life, to me, is much more valuable than the life of a fetus. End of story
This feels like bullshit though because it also allows you to take advantage of a woman. I hate that you people call us narrow minded and stubborn for not conforming to horrible beliefs. I know you didn’t mean it to be sexist and you may mean well, but the consequences are too severe. Besides, just because a fetus is technically a human does not make them PRACTICALLY a human. This should never be up for debate and you can’t convince me, you’re objectively wrong and it’s dangerous so please stop
It’s only innocent because it’s also mindless and unintelligent. It’s just a clump of undeveloped cells. It is nothing like a full grown woman. Look, most women don’t like getting abortions anyway, but many will do so nonetheless when they feel their life is in danger or they can’t provide for the child. They don’t do it because they want to murder a child, but because they don’t want to bring a child into the world when they aren’t ready, especially when the world is so cruel.
That has nothing to do with this. Also I hate her and think her killing children was wrong, but this isn’t the same because we aren’t talking about children, we are talking about unborn, mindless fetuses that are nowhere near as valuable as a woman. We should just let women decide, they know best. We don’t.
Are you actually fucking saying you “respect” life by eating it? For the record, I’m not even vegan, and don’t have a problem with people eating meat, but that is god awful reasoning. Even if I were on your side of this debate, I’d consider that awful reasoning. This is what I mean, though. The right and the left are not equally flawed, the right is objectively more irrational and bad at logic, and this is another example of such. I don’t care if you find that insulting its true
I’d rather be a Redditor leftist than a bigoted, unscientific, morally corrupt right winger who destroys this world. And don’t give me any centrist bullshit, the right is objectively wrong a lot of the time these days. I’m sorry but they just are, and calling this post Reddit logic only shows how much you suck.
How can we find a middle ground with horrible people? Why should we ignore how awful they are just because they frame it as politics? This is why most people hate centrists like you, and why they hate the democrats almost as much as the republicans. Because the democrats aren’t really leftist, they’re just not as right as republicans. I know I just said I hate centrists bullshit, but there’s a difference between “left vs right” and “democrats vs republicans”
That’s not a rebuttal though, you’re just framing it in a sarcastic way, but you haven’t even engaged in an actual debate with me. You just care about being on a high horse, which is ironic because it feels like that’s what your comment was criticizing. You like to act as though you are different from the worst of Redditors, but this behavior is just as bad.
I think those who are socially far right and don’t respect others human rights are. If you wanna be fiscally conservative that’s fine. But if you wanna disrespect and walk over others because of bigoted views, that’s bullshit. Not all political beliefs deserve to be respected, especially when those beliefs disrespect other people.
What I’m saying is that I don’t need people to be exactly in line with me, this isn’t my way or the highway. There are just some things so awful that finding a middle ground only makes things worse. And besides, it’s not like I’m not allowed to still criticize someone’s beliefs, even if I respect them and won’t hate them for it. Criticism is a healthy way of improving ones beliefs.
But some things aren’t an opinion, like the question as to whether all races are equal: they are, that’s a fact. That is factually scientifically true. To deny such is racist and immoral. You’re missing the point of these comments, and it’s falling into a dangerous trap known as the paradox of tolerance. Look it up and you’ll see what I mean.
Now that I think about it, all of your comments were just you being a smartass who wanted to mock and ridicule others just to feel good about themselves. Why else would all of your responses be so short and surface level? Everything you’ve said is asinine and akin to Redditor behavior. Again, you fail to see your own failures.