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Anonymous 9w

Both sides bad yall just brainwashed

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Anonymous 9w

Holy propaganda

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Anonymous 9w

I think left wing extremism is the people who turn genuine concepts into insufferable internet buzzwords as an excuse to bully random people on the internet

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when will everyone realize both parties are controlled by the same person, made to divide the country

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To #4 A lot of drag isn’t sexually dancing or dressing sexually. It’s just not about that. There’s actually a lot of drag that is focused on activism (climate for example). I know there’s a large narrative against it (my father once believed it) but when you actually look into the subject you’ll realize it’s basically a theatrical expression of a character. Shakespeare did it, the Greeks did it, as did Indian and Russian culture.

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Anonymous 9w

I won a debate and now My friends call me dean withers 😂😂😂

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Anonymous 9w

As a left wing person, I have to admit that we do indeed have extremists. Think about PETA or the extreme side of veganism, it’s like that. It’s the people who like to use things like pronouns as an excuse to police other peoples’ words, or who find cultural appropriation in everything. Still better than celebrating that a non binary child died to bullying tho.

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Anonymous 9w

Braindead post both sides tuch kids at the top

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Anonymous 8w

At least we don’t kill our kids

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I want to kill fetuses for no reason other than I’m a slt I want tampons in boys bathrooms I want males in women sports I want death penalty for wrong speech I want fat people for health secretaries guh guh

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Anonymous 9w

Fucking cornball🤣🤣

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Anonymous 8w

By feeding into discourse like this, you become the problem. Typically, on both sides, you will find lots of common ground with “extremists” due to simple things such as a shared humanity. When you fail to acknowledge that you could be swayed by media and close mindedness, or such open mindedness that your brain falls out, you fail to be progressive and become less of an individual and more someone that fits into a bureaucratic machine as a red or blue cog.

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Anonymous 9w

This is so biased both sides are fucked and everyone just needs to butt out of everyone’s business and only care about themselves and their loved ones

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Anonymous 7w

The right: Don’t kill kids, that’s wrong The left: Kill kids, we support & encourage you

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Anonymous 9w

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person in the US or any other country of any political party make an argument like “10 year olds should give birth” Are these the two wolves fighting inside you OP? Stop feeding the guy/wolf/whatever that is on the left. (Weird set up the way this meme is formatted)

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Anonymous 9w

nah were too busy replacing yall

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Anonymous 9w

Your ideology was spread by a Jewish pedophile that worked for the Israeli state

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Anonymous 9w

Better than diddling kids honestly But also not all drag is not inherently sexual, it's just dressing up

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Anonymous 9w

That’s not a thing that’s ever happened but it’s wild that you think a drag show is worse than the real forced birth laws that have actually been passed in the U.S.

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Anonymous 9w

Side of pedophilia btw

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Anonymous 9w

Its sexual to you cuz it turns you on but there is nothing inherently sexual about drag, its literally just putting on clothes and makeup, you dont have to be a specific sexuality or gender to partake and it is completely harmless. If you somehow think its going to hurt a child more them literally being raped then you should be in jail brah

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Anonymous 9w

So did you not vote for him?

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Anonymous 9w

drag show expert over here. truly knows every drag show and their setpieces

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Anonymous 9w

Well if a drag show is gonna have those things then obviously its gonna be 18+, just like any other form of entertainment that includes nudity or sexual themes, no one is advocating to bring their kids there, however a drag queen say reading a book to some kids is hurting absolutely no one

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Anonymous 9w

You know it does🤪😋☺️

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Anonymous 9w

You understand, the more you feel the need to show your disgust at this stuff the more likely you are to be closeted? This is backed up by studies, just saying

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Anonymous 9w

Lemme guess, you just a heckin good person

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Anonymous 9w

Trump literally called himself the first Jewish president lmao, and Netanyahu says he is Israel’s greatest ally. Fuck off with that shit

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Anonymous replying to -> purple_boat59 9w

A lot of yap for a guy named purple boat lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 9w

A lot of yap for a sucker who likes to get bent over by his politicians lmao

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Anonymous 9w

"right wing" but not maga, doesnt like trump anymore, still very prejudiced, calls people israeli soldiers for left wing takes... im guessing a cuck fuentes groyper?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 9w

i'd put money on it. not much, but i would

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Anonymous 9w

When you were younger? 2 years ago?

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Anonymous 9w

People are supposed to get smarter and wiser as they age. Apparently this wasn’t the case for you. You’re a RINO 🦏

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 9w

The far right is know for being edge lords, the left is no where near people who embrace racism, neo nazi ideology, and pedo behavior among other things

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

I have seen news of child marriage still being a thing in Iran/Afghanistan but that starts blasting towards whatever Islamophobia is defined as now days.

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Anonymous 9w

Actual left-wing extremism btw

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 9w

Don’t fall for the Kirk trap. He’s baiting you into saying anything other than what he believes in and then will call you an abominable human being

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Anonymous 9w

It’s a uniparty divided on the exact lines it needs to be to keep those with less assets quarreling among ourselves rather than recognizing the same lobbies are funding both political parties for the sake of keeping up the appearance of opposition. Both parties common people don’t seem to like flock cameras, whatever the deal is with these data centers and water (?), obviously pedophile islands, etc. But if they keep us pointing fingers at one another and not the lobbyists, we see less 1/2

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

Of the nefarious things they try to slip through the cracks when we are spending time yelling at one another in the streets and on the internet.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

Because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

does it need to be someone explicitly saying "10 year olds should give birth"? or will you accept that like 99.9% of republicans voted against a law protecting people's right to travel for medical care (including abortion) as the story about the 10 year old rape victim who had to go to another state to get an abortion was the big story of the time?

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

because it is rather implicit that if you oppose abortion with no exceptions, and you want to restrict travel for abortions, that you want *all* pregnant people to be forced to give birth. that is, of course, the only logical conclusion of such beliefs

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Anonymous replying to -> purple_boat59 9w

Me when I’m somehow conservative and still think that the files need to be released and Trump is in them

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Anonymous 9w

Why are you talking about drag shows when you’ve very obviously never gone to one

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Anonymous 9w

I wouldn’t say they deserve to die, but many of them do deserve consequences

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Anonymous 9w

His terrible actions and character have been going on for over a decade now, there is no excuse for not knowing during the last election

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 9w

For having differences of opinions?

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 9w

Some of them are legitimately horrible people, and others are entirely complicit in the actions of the current government

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 9w

“Be more selfish” shut up man. And comparing the ideology of wanting the government to provide necessary services at less cost to the ideology of Neo-Nazism and anti-intellectualism is insane work

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 9w

You’re the person who was stupid enough to vote for him. He was a horrible businessman and sexual predator prior to the 2016 election. His first term was a cluster fuck of destroying our global relations and severely mishandling the pandemic. Prior to the 2024 election, he formally became an adjudicated rapist. You and every single person who voted for him are fucking clowns or straight up awful people.

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Anonymous 9w

You guys are just fucking delusional lmao no one wants to put kids in drag parades. If people want to go see drag, they can. Literally no one is forcing them, unlike your side that wants to destroy people’s rights

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

child marriage is legal in 33 U.S. states btw. y’all care more for afghanistan and iran than y’all do alabama and mississippi… which is absurd because y’all actually know people who live in those places

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 9w

Was about to say lmao, they’ll whine about countries abroad yet fail to notice the insidious shit happening in their own backyard. If you talk about child marriage without mentioning US states, you’re not serious.

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 9w

As an Alabamian, child marriage may be legal to some extent but it is very highly frowned upon. It is famously extremely pervasive in countries ruled under Islamic law compared to that in any US state. While it’s true that it should be illegal here, claiming that Alabama and Afghanistan are comparable in that regard is willful ignorance at best

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 9w

“Frowned upon” isn’t a measure of viability. It’s still legal. And frankly you will never know the true amount of child predators exploiting this legality. Why hasn’t it been outlawed?

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Anonymous replying to -> george_carlin_ 9w

lmao you have no idea what my ideology is

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

I’ve yet to see one in Alabama/GA. Which isn’t to say it doesn’t happen, they just appear to be doing it out in the open overseas.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

Looked them up. It would seem #17 is speaking accurately enough.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

Iran’s is particularly disturbing. Especially that last three lines.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 9w

"butt out of everyone's business" the president being a rapist pedo is everyone's business. right wingers wanting to legalize child marriage and CSA is everyone's business

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 9w

That’s like… the largest stretch I’ve seen someone make to create a defensive narrative I’ve seen in maybe a year.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

May I ask how? Drag queens usually do not identify as female and drag kings do not usually identify as male. It’s a character they put on. Yes it’s done by predominantly queer people, but historically theater has been too. It’s just a form of expression

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

They’re both disturbing, but I’m confused as to why people don’t focus on the problems that are closer in proximity. I also have to mention that CSA is rampant just about everywhere but especially in red states, which also have higher crime rates overall, and within various churches including FDS.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

people can marry as low as either 14 or 15 in the states. idgaf if it requires parental consent or not. i also dgaf about iran when the post is about right wingers and left wingers in AMERICA. wtaf does iran have to do with this post? nothing; its deflection and whataboutism directed at groups that aren't even relevant what have you to say about the fact that CSA and child marriage are still legal in the US, and most common in red states? nothing?

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Anonymous 9w

These are based on real laws that have actually been passed

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

Do you just spend all day like.. skewing maps or are you like a parrot who repeats everything a few sources tell you about a topic? Hold on I’ll pull one up. I would be willing to bet most of the crime is the blue counties of the red states… and I’m 99% certain Cali and NY are not red states. Or Illinois… Maybe Florida and Texas, but def not Cali, NY, or Illinois. But who knows, they may flip.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

Yeah I’m not even gonna blame it on a political party, this one is homicides. Go figure, where people are packed tight (Cali cities, NY, near Chicago, yeah sure all blue states but same goes with FL and that’s been going Republican more and more often… so… makes sense the title of the politicians doesn’t account for an increase in homicide.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 9w

basic empathy + hating trump = hoooooly polotics

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

Forgive my dismissive tone, your right people should focus more locally about what they can do to prevent local sex slave trade. One thing I’ll bear witness to that while I wasn’t present (I’m sort of oath bound to intervene, long story) in Alabama when it was occurring, I can attest the incest joke isn’t as much of a joke as I had hoped it was being a northerner moving south, and once friends opened up to me… there is an issue with child predators nearly everywhere, cities, rural, islands etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

You’re*

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 9w

If we have the capability to prevent children from being raped anywhere in the world I would much rather we expend our missiles/focus destroying regimes that support that than for regional conflicts to feed the military industrial complex. We can’t exactly drop tomahawk’s in all the cities and rural towns domestically that have child predators imbedded in an apartment building. We must be extra surgical at home.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

You know we don’t have to use missiles to change domestic law. We can do that with a missile budget of zero actually

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 9w

Yeah it’s expressing a subscription service to purchasing/obtaining things/hormones associated with sexuality. Heck, the history of modern day high heels were designed to accentuate the legs and butt to be more sexually appealing. Don’t get me wrong I’m not against high heels, but let’s not put a veneer of altruism around sexually based gender identities.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

So I’m not sure if you know this… but higher population density correlates with higher crime. If you adjust for density, yes red states experience higher average crime. I appreciate you engaging in good faith though. https://worldmetrics.org/per-capita-crime-statistics/

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

To add to this: if you want to parse statistics while accounting for population density, type “per capita.”

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 9w

Hey I’m all for solution focused ideas, what did you have in mind?

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

Correct, and that’s part of where the justice system fails (i.e. pedophiles and rapists getting very low sentences, statute of limitations on sexual assault, etc.). Taking these crimes more seriously will take systemic change at the level of the courts and police.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

That’s incorrect high heels were originally worn by men to secure their feet in stirrups.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 9w

Gotta stay on the horse

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 9w

I’m also all for the pre-1970 standard dating back thousands of years (common law dating all the way back to the laws of Mosus) where the penalty for rape is death. Behaviors, cultures, routines, whatever you wish to call them, grow like bacterial cultures in a similar mathematical sense. If they are allowed to persist, they multiply.

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 9w

If being told the truth counts as bullying, then sure

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 9w

99% of people on any end of the political spectrum can’t confirm closer to 100% of the things they say relative to politics. (Especially now that deepfakes are common) There’s no way of insuring anyone is speaking the truth unless they can confirm what they said with eye witness testimony + maybe physical evidence.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 9w

Like half the people either side let crush their vibe could be dead… just walking around making people’s days worse cuz the TV and/or internet riled them up enough to take it out on their next door neighbor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 9w

Please refer back to my inclusion of the word “modern day” just prior to high heels. There was also those tacky high heels European politicians would wear to let everyone know they couldn’t plow a field or fix a wagon to save their life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

You use that vote thing the Constitution guarantees you

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

Did they die because the bullies themselves killed them? This is the first I’ve heard about this.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

They died because of the actions of the bullies.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

I’m not for bullying, I’m quite anti-bullying. I’m asking if the bullies were the ones who physically killed them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

It’s a request for information, specifically clarity.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

There is a lot of ambiguity surrounding their death, but the story was that Nex Benedict got into a physical altercation with his bullies, and then died later due to suicide by drug toxicity. It is speculated that it was an accident caused by confusion because Nex hit his head on the bathroom floor and was hurt enough by his bullies to black out, so the head injuries might have clouded their judgement or caused confusion.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 9w

Trump does not represent the right wing.

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Anonymous replying to -> #36 9w

Well the loudest ones are maga and claim this so say that to them

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Anonymous 9w

motte and bailey + no true scotsman fallacy. he does represent the right wing. he is the most powerful and influential representative of the right wing in human history

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Anonymous 9w

too bad if you don't like that reality

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 9w

Well I’m obviously not talking about being told the truth simply or rudely, I’m talking about the bean soup warriors online

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

That’s genuinely heartbreaking. I’ll look up the case. Thank you for the name.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

I’ll tell you as someone who’s more deeply entrenched in the reporting of crimes formally than most, witness statements are some of the hardest threads to pull when dealing with a situation of this nature. If the description of the assailants is just “three girls”, the agent/officer doing the investigation would either have to interview all girls at that school, or someone, perhaps a teacher would have to come forward and give a witness statement noting the absence of three female students 1/2

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

2/2 that matched the timeframe of the attack. And if ANY of the witnesses timeframes didn’t match, the case would fall apart. You couple that with cell phone data that tracks GPS coordinates within 3 meters, and again, if there is even the slightest deviation of the witness statement becomes an obstruction that would let whomever really did the crime off the hook. Witnesses often trying to help, end up derailing an entire investigation by giving broad suggestive evidence that doesn’t match.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

There’s this… I wouldn’t call it a flaw in human memory, more like an evolved glitch? That fills in blanks using the imagination on small details especially relative to time and anchored thoughts around timeframes. It can be sifted through, but once a statement is made and written down, there’s no changing it. If the witness changes their statement the DA is going to be very hesitant to put them in front of a jury and let the defense tear them apart for remembering two different things.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

Your point being?

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 9w

Give it time. It will make sense later.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

Dawg I’ve read through it like 3 times throughout the course of the day and I couldn’t make sense of it 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #35 9w

I hate when people do the whole “both sides” thing. Just because both sides say it doesn’t mean it’s impossible for it to be true for either side, nor does it make it ironic when one side claims that the other side is actually guilty. It’s just bad faith debate.

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 9w

But what would that even be? Like if I’m defending claims that prove climate change is real for example, how does that make me as bad as the people who deny? Even if I said it annoyingly, that doesn’t change the facts.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

People like you are smart enough to know you can’t blatantly be homophobic, so you try to skirt around it, as if finding some legal loophole in morality and getting away with what is objectively bigotry. And then when we call you out, you act like we are unreasonable because you said in a polite way, except that polite tone was hollow and dishonest. It’s clear who you are

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 9w

I hate when you people try to pull the enlightened centrist card and act all smart about it. For the record, I prefer dem socialists over democrats, but what you wrote is bad faith debate.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 9w

Exactly. This person is trying to do the whole “both sides suck” thing and I hate it. It’s not selfish at all. Denying so is how people like trump get away with it because people become scared to speak up, and things only spiral. Sometimes you gotta speak up your opinion and stand up to others wrong opinions.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 9w

What if your loved ones are wrong, though? What if their politics are hurting others and make them awful people? Because we really shouldn’t allow them to get away just because they’re family, for it comes off as selfish to the victims of their awfulness. It’s like if your friend is a bully but you never stand up to them. You’re just as bad as the bully and failed to fix the core issue, instead enabling them. That and also for as flawed as liberals are, right wingers are way more objectively bad

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 9w

It literally says in Wikipedia that child marriage is objectively allowed. I know you might say “but it’s for 17 year olds!” That’s saying so little. Even though 18 is a better threshold, there’s a reason most 18 year olds don’t get married then, even if it’s technically legal for them to in most of the world. Reducing the age by a year only makes things worse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 9w

Basically nimby

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Anonymous 9w

Dawg there have been bullies killing kids for a long time, they don’t mean to kill but they do occasionally 😭 I can pull up other examples if you want or you can just do a quick google search

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 9w

On the one hand, we would be better off with a third party and democrats are poor quality. On the other hand, and judging on a case by case basis (environmentalism, race, lgbtq, etc,) right wingers are objectively worse.

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Anonymous 9w

Definitely not friendly to whites. Wants to “fix” the planet by dumping more money into government projects and give the government more power. “Trusts science” except when science says life begins at conception right

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

i just saw that you replied... and your reply is "we can't bomb rural america so we should bomb people in countries because things that occur in the states are happening there"... and of course the irony of you saying "expend missiles/focus destroying regimes that support that than for regional conflicts to feed the military industrial complex" is that IT IS THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ""DESTROYING"" THE REGIMES. and look how that's going in iran 😂 we're getting spanked dude

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

also bombing places creates instability which increases sexual violence/abuse

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Anonymous replying to -> #32 8w

You guys are dumping money into much more illegal and unconstitutional projects 😭 not to mention Trump’s golf course

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

why shouldn't royal america be bombed?

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 8w

Oh really like what? Which “illegal” projects

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Anonymous 8w

If you can acknowledge that this is a purely subjective view, no matter your thoughts, then this is okay to say 🙂‍↕️! Objectively there is no pure good “side” and who you decide is better is a matter of “who better lines up with my beliefs?” Which is flawed due to the property of people to not be perfect, or potentially lacking information, etc.

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Anonymous 8w

Of course it’s AI slop

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 8w

There’s such a thing as inter subjective though, where certain moral beliefs are held by a majority of people. This also falls into the continuum fallacy, where one believes that because something can’t precisely split up, no definition or objective qualities exist for it. Also a lot of politics aren’t subjective, like racial equality, gender equality, the effectiveness and safety of vaccines, etc. I hate that people keep insisting we get along with bad politics.

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Anonymous 8w

Not really though. If you’re open to actually discussing the Democratic platforms which I can explain, I suspect you wouldn’t be so against them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

- Higher taxes would be for the wealthiest 1%. You’re not going to be a billionaire, and trickle down is a myth. - Defunding police means allocating part of bloated law enforcement budgets to community-based solutions like improving economic conditions and education, which are proven to reduce crime, as well as restructuring police to answer to their community for violations of conduct instead of getting off free for abuse of power.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

- While I personally don’t support open borders and most Democrats don’t either, I’d love for you to explain why it’s so harmful. If your contention is about public safety because we’re unable to vet immigrants coming into the country, I think that’s entirely stupid given we don’t even vet American citizens who commit crime at a higher proportion than illegal immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

- The right to own a firearm is constitutionally enshrined and should continue to be. But reasonable restrictions should be in place to prevent mass shootings. The number one cause of death for children in our country is school shootings. Do you agree that we should have background checks and keep guns away from violent and/or mentally unstable people? - Socialism doesn’t exist in America. The DSA refers to “democratic socialism,” which is progressive policy under the framework of capitalism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

- Not sure where you got lockdowns from. If you’re referring to COVID, I think you should maybe study how massively contagious and lethal diseases have been handled throughout history. Quarantines are the first line of defense. - The current administration is consolidating power in the executive to an unprecedented level. If you dislike big government but support this administration, you are a hypocrite.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

Datacenter issue is not the water, it’s the electricity they use. Most data centers that use water are either close looped(high upfront usage very low maintenance usage) or use evaporative cooling on extremely hot days, which just puts the water back into atmosphere and will eventually turn into rain.

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Anonymous replying to -> #42 8w

And where does that rain go? A lot of times, back into the ocean. We’re losing freshwater dude

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Anonymous 8w

Oof not a good look buddy (party of peace and excellence actin ass)

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Anonymous replying to -> purple_boat59 8w

The far right was left 20 years ago, all that’s happened is the left gets more and more pussy like

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Anonymous replying to -> #44 8w

The number one cause of child mortality is guns. You’re gonna wanna sit that one out bud

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 8w

Even if you ban guns people are still going to have them

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 8w

Abortions have killed 1/8th of the planet since 1980 you moron

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 8w

You’re so fucking stupid holy. To be killed means you have to have been born

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

So if I smashed a birds egg with a baby inside it that hasn’t hatched yet and it dies, I didn’t kill it?

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Anonymous 8w

But the actual debate is about life versus personhood. Life means nothing to most people when divorced from things like sentience, cognitive capabilities, etc. No one gives a fuck about life itself. People kill insects without a care, go hunting, etc. Then people say the life is important because it’s human. Well, what makes it human? You don’t perceive DNA, you perceive personhood through personality, ability to feel joy and pain, etc. Personhood cannot begin prior to 20-22 weeks of gestation

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

- which is when the nervous system forms

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 8w

I’m giving you the legal definition of what it means to kill a person

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

See but even then your conclusion is subjective, I care about unborn babies at the start of conception not “person hood” if single felled organisms were found on mars would the headlines be? Life on Mars

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Also the comment of “you have to be born to be killed” is false cause if someone killed a pregnant woman they would be charged with double homicide. But with your logic that doesn’t work.

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Anonymous 8w

You just destroyed your own argument. You are correct. Laws are flawed. Go ahead. Smash the bird eggs and don’t feel like shit after. The mental gymnastics you have to do to justify ending 1 billion lives is insane. All because of responsibility. Call it what ever you want. Sure legalize abortion. You still ended 1 billion lives. Smash the bird eggs.

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 8w

But that’s not the point I was making… it’s about the value you place on life. Beyond their scientific value, most people would not care about whether single celled organisms lived or died

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Anonymous 8w

Okay but then what standard are we going by? Because I can argue the science and ethicality, but you people will automatically pivot to subjective opinion

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 8w

You’re fully contradicting yourself, though. I’m trying to establish something beyond subjectivity as a metric for ethics, but if we’re going to move past that since you’re pointing out a contradiction in the legal system, then no I don’t believe fetuses are inherently worthy of life beyond the womb. They aren’t people. They have no memories, no capacity to form emotions or feel pain, no personality, not even a single thought before ~22 weeks of gestation. This is the indisputable science.

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Anonymous replying to -> #43 8w

If you value all human life regardless of personhood or the stage of biological development, then as a thought experiment, you should be just as willing to blowtorch an entire room full of Petri dishes with zygotes in them as you would be blowtorching a room full of newborns. Correct?

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

If you disagree, you are implying there is a value gradient to unborn human life, and fully disqualifying your argument.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 8w

You’re right and the people in this thread are delusional. They’d rather make women carry all fetuses to term than implement protections so that children don’t get shot in school. That’s just the reality of the folks you’re talking to

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

It’s a baby. A baby human. And unlike you and I, it is innocent.

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Anonymous replying to -> #42 8w

I strongly suspected this. Thank you for the additional conformation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 8w

Interesting you point out the freshwater. My summer job tracks salt water and geothermal activity and the current data is so bizarre I doubt they will ever publish it as an official report (takes the wind right out of the sails of climate change theories, they had the concepts inverted, threat isn’t coming from above so much as it is building below us in the foundations of the earth) But ice bergs are cracking, salt water isn’t rising even in the ballpark of initial predictions, we calculate1/

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 8w

Oceans also evaporate into the atmosphere and rain back down as fresh water my guy

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

2/2 micro-fissures building beneath… strangely enough, areas of dense rock with short distances to human dense populations. The leading theory is because we are now emitting 1x10^15 EMR of the microwave spectrum from the surface of the earth when compared to pre industrial era (that spectrum of energy was only emitted from stars and the atmosphere) It’s cracking plates through the cooling and heating of the water closer to the source (similar to why roads crack each winter) In any case, 2/2

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

2/2 the more drilling we do to probe for data, the more we hasten incoming earthquakes (regional). In the meantime we’ve found studying the volcano’s and strangely enough, everywhere there’s a large cathedral (something about the historic data flags as relevant 🤷‍♂️) works.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 8w

But to your point of where the water is going, the answer, we found, is there’s large cracks building both between the plates, and in the plates themselves, and the rate at which those fissures grow is accelerating.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

Wrong again, it is not a baby. It is a fetus. These are two different things, if you care to actually look into it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 8w

Also holy avoiding my point lmao. You right wing idiots will do anything to destroy a woman’s autonomy and do fuck all for the child once it’s born. I absolutely guarantee you leftists are more invested in a child’s well being and safety than you ever will be.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Fetus = bebe

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Erm logical fallacy nerd Just because all life is priceless doesn’t mean that priceless is equal 🙄 Context also matter heavily like use your brain? You are parroting generic things that you think sound smart

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Red herring spotted lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Also saying “you people” is a bit dated bruh like have we not learned?

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 8w

Lmao you quite literally just implied a value gradient. Clown. There is no logical fallacy, and no I don’t believe you or any conservative in this thread actually believes all life is priceless. Do you eat meat? Have you ever killed an animal or bug or insect? Already contradicted

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Of course there is a value gradient silly 🤪! The pricelessness I am referring to is akin to there being different sizes of infinity. All priceless but not equivalent. Unfortunately for your guess work I am not conservative, and I do see all life as priceless. I actually relocate bugs whenever possible and I respect the life of animals I eat by using the energy they provide to live a healthy and active life. I can consider life to be priceless and respect the natural order of things.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

Reply formatting on tiktak is silly but I agree with the gradient comment. It’s a context thing. I’ll demonstrate! A situation arises where you must save 1 adult or 100 fetuses. Situation one is regular, present day earth. Answer to S1 is the 1 adult. Situation two is dead earth humans nearly extinct, both parties are on a spaceship. Answer is S2. Why? Because the 100 fetuses have a higher chance of repopulating. Both priceless, but to what extent is context. Understood?

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 8w

“Answer is S2” —> “answer is party 2” typo*

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 8w

That’s exactly why I said “you or any conservative” but okay sure. And you’re saying the values of “life is priceless” and “following the natural order of things” by eating other animals is compatible, but that then implies that the action following your belief (“life is priceless”) isn’t to conserve all life, which then makes me confused as to why you’re commenting on this thread. A human woman’s life, to me, is much more valuable than the life of a fetus. End of story

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 8w

“Not equivalent” is the exact value gradient I’m talking about… I mean have fun talking in circles. That whole logical fallacy comment was pure projection

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 8w

1/8 of the planet? like as in all life on earth? i'm guessing you mean 1/8 of people, right?

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 8w

The Lindsey Clancy supporters just proved you are projecting.

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Anonymous 8w

Hit wrong wrong reply button buddy

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 7w

Bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7w

This feels like bullshit though because it also allows you to take advantage of a woman. I hate that you people call us narrow minded and stubborn for not conforming to horrible beliefs. I know you didn’t mean it to be sexist and you may mean well, but the consequences are too severe. Besides, just because a fetus is technically a human does not make them PRACTICALLY a human. This should never be up for debate and you can’t convince me, you’re objectively wrong and it’s dangerous so please stop

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 7w

Exactly, they are completely up their own ass and focused on being on a high horse that they can’t see their own faults, or realize that even if they don’t mean to take advantage of women, it’s impossible to not do so if you outlaw and punishz

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 7w

It’s only innocent because it’s also mindless and unintelligent. It’s just a clump of undeveloped cells. It is nothing like a full grown woman. Look, most women don’t like getting abortions anyway, but many will do so nonetheless when they feel their life is in danger or they can’t provide for the child. They don’t do it because they want to murder a child, but because they don’t want to bring a child into the world when they aren’t ready, especially when the world is so cruel.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 7w

That has nothing to do with this. Also I hate her and think her killing children was wrong, but this isn’t the same because we aren’t talking about children, we are talking about unborn, mindless fetuses that are nowhere near as valuable as a woman. We should just let women decide, they know best. We don’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 7w

Are you actually fucking saying you “respect” life by eating it? For the record, I’m not even vegan, and don’t have a problem with people eating meat, but that is god awful reasoning. Even if I were on your side of this debate, I’d consider that awful reasoning. This is what I mean, though. The right and the left are not equally flawed, the right is objectively more irrational and bad at logic, and this is another example of such. I don’t care if you find that insulting its true

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Anonymous 7w

I’d rather be a Redditor leftist than a bigoted, unscientific, morally corrupt right winger who destroys this world. And don’t give me any centrist bullshit, the right is objectively wrong a lot of the time these days. I’m sorry but they just are, and calling this post Reddit logic only shows how much you suck.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 7w

Your comment perfectly demonstrates why their logic sucks and I thank you for it. These people are also usually the same people who don’t care about environmental destruction, so saying that they care for all life just isn’t true.

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Anonymous 7w

Don’t pull the centrist card. Some things in this world lean black and white, good and evil.

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Anonymous 7w

Plus there’s a difference between disagreeing about, say, an economic policy, and disagreeing about basic fundamental rights.

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Anonymous 7w

How can we find a middle ground with horrible people? Why should we ignore how awful they are just because they frame it as politics? This is why most people hate centrists like you, and why they hate the democrats almost as much as the republicans. Because the democrats aren’t really leftist, they’re just not as right as republicans. I know I just said I hate centrists bullshit, but there’s a difference between “left vs right” and “democrats vs republicans”

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Anonymous 7w

That’s not a rebuttal though, you’re just framing it in a sarcastic way, but you haven’t even engaged in an actual debate with me. You just care about being on a high horse, which is ironic because it feels like that’s what your comment was criticizing. You like to act as though you are different from the worst of Redditors, but this behavior is just as bad.

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I think those who are socially far right and don’t respect others human rights are. If you wanna be fiscally conservative that’s fine. But if you wanna disrespect and walk over others because of bigoted views, that’s bullshit. Not all political beliefs deserve to be respected, especially when those beliefs disrespect other people.

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What I’m saying is that I don’t need people to be exactly in line with me, this isn’t my way or the highway. There are just some things so awful that finding a middle ground only makes things worse. And besides, it’s not like I’m not allowed to still criticize someone’s beliefs, even if I respect them and won’t hate them for it. Criticism is a healthy way of improving ones beliefs.

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Anonymous 7w

But some things aren’t an opinion, like the question as to whether all races are equal: they are, that’s a fact. That is factually scientifically true. To deny such is racist and immoral. You’re missing the point of these comments, and it’s falling into a dangerous trap known as the paradox of tolerance. Look it up and you’ll see what I mean.

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 7w

So much for good faith debate.

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Anonymous 7w

Now that I think about it, all of your comments were just you being a smartass who wanted to mock and ridicule others just to feel good about themselves. Why else would all of your responses be so short and surface level? Everything you’ve said is asinine and akin to Redditor behavior. Again, you fail to see your own failures.

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Anonymous 7w

Mr. Mental Maturity #45 writing comments at the emotional and intellectual level of middle schoolers. shut up, twerp

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 7w

He’s just projecting his own immaturity

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 7w

very true

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