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They’re both racist cesspits that hate Muslims but claim to be superior civilizations, and to some degree participate in discrimination against people who did nothing to deserve it (apartheid in “Israel” and the caste system in India)
it's really funny when people say india is like israel when it's quite literally the opposite. indians were colonized by the mughals and the British for centuries before their independence. india is literally what israel claims to be
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Anonymous 1w

Calling India a “cesspit” and blaming Indians for the caste system that was institutionalized and codified by the British is some crazy work. I know what you are.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

And no, I’m not defending India’s Islamophobia

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Oh please as if any other country in the region isn’t just as bad, India is just the closest one to Israel in attitude and social hierarchy

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Nepal might be cool but idk, all I know about Nepal is the mountains and the food

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

as an indian it was not institutionalized by the british and it actually exists across the radcliffe line and it’s not unique to hinduism. it’s a regressive social order. just because it got calcified as the british raj incorporated the peripheries into the market economy and did primitive accumulation doesn’t mean they wrote the Rigveda, Manusmriti, or other Dharmaśāstra texts. this person is reductive and Spivak wrote about these activists’ harm in “Can the Subaltern Speak?”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

that still does not justify your ignorance, even though Spivak warns that when western pseudo/intellectuals use broad frameworks to represent others, they often commit epistemic violence by oversimplifying complex material conditions into academic vernacular, effacing the differences, thereby effectively domesticating the subject by turning a real struggle into a mere perspective that can be easily ignored by global capital.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

1/ on jati

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

2/ more about the connection

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

3/ on religion (yes it’s south asian and it traveled with MAZHABIS KAMMIS PASMANDAS and dalit muslims who converted to islam and christianity. BECAUSE WEALTH WAS TIED TO JATI THE LIVED REALITY OF CASTE

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

india is just as genocidal as pakistan; it operates through secularized democratic ethnostate logics. but i’m not gonna pretend like india’s democracy insulates minorities like muslims, dalits, adivasis, kashmiris, kukis, from genocide via attrition and recursive structural violence or outright eliminationism

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

this one also talks about how shariat in pakistan which is not the best at enforcing sharia in the first place icl from karachi and lahore at least what i saw 💀 the interpretation is rooted in south asian kinship systems, not islam. therefore the hierarchies and biraderi in punjab is part of the problem that sits across the radcliffe line.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

word secular was added late

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

about egalitarianism, patriarchy, and how they’ve changed over time bc i don’t have more time to debunk ridiculously reductive oversimplifications the likes of these

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

more about caste

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

why there isn’t a “unique” evil but a connected one

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

what engels said

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

this was written about an annoying london muslim but it’s also applicable for most north indians

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

As societies move from feudalism to capitalism, the honor motive often shifts from land preservation to labor and consumption control. Jati calcified. Capitalism doesn't always end femicide; it can privatize it. In a market economy, the nuclear family becomes the primary unit of consumption. Control over women shifts from the village elders to the individual breadwinner.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

for the Khap Panchayat, the high land value, strong kinship ties, and a transition from agriculture to market-based wealth hasn't yet dismantled the patriarchal “safety net”.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Why casteism PERSISTS IN AMERIKA: when a family moves to the West, they integrate into a capitalist market for income, but they often remain tied to the feudal social credit system back home to maintain status, property, and power in their village of origin.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Wealthy diaspora members often use their wealth to buy more land back home. To protect that investment, they must adhere to the local social hierarchy. Arranged marriages and honor enforcement are ways to cement these transnational economic alliances.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

meant for this to reply

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

no it’s israel. india has a unique geopolitical materiality. israel is a better example of a successor to cecil rhodes, smuts, lebensraum and manifest destiny theorists. this is a structurally reactionary comparison and fundamentally misunderstands the majoritarianism in India. Israel is a white supremacist settler colonial genocidal eliminationist shithole that racializes Palestinians through orientalism and white supremacy which manifests in virulent bloodthirst for Falastini Arabs

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