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We don’t need bullet proof doors, armed teachers, or 50 guards per school. We simply need gun control. Mental health is very real, but of someone gets depressed and shoots up a school, how does that not strengthen the case for Gun Control?
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Anonymous 1w

Okay I consider myself to be left, I am a MAGA hater but I don’t really agree with amending the constitution in favor of gun control. It’s up to states how they want to regulate guns but at the end of the day, the government should not stop us from bearing arms. Statistically school shooters are not the licensed owner of the gun they used. I really think more extensive background checks, home checks and stronger enforcement on gun safety is the only thing we can do.

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Anonymous 1w

it’s literally impossible without amending the constitution

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

We are quite literally living in a time where the current president is doing what ever he wants, regardless of the constitution, precedent, or the legality of it. With that being said kids are dying, college students are dying, and the step to solving that is having conversations around gun control

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Honestly if our lawmakers had balls they would amend it. How long are we expected to suffer because of a misinterpretation of a law written hundreds of years ago?

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

This has a lot to do with anit intellectualism too I think, people have been told that it’s ok to act like guns make people safer and are therefore justified to own in huge quantities and carry everywhere

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

well that’s not gonna happen idk what to tell you

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

I mean yeah you’re almost definitely correct, I just can’t accept that we’ll just let this problem go on forever. Someday people will get sick of the killings I think

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

I think the best we’ll ever get are slightly stronger red flag laws. But it’s tough because anything that works will have pro gun folks crying about their rights being taken away

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

I’m not going to sit here and say that these horrific shootings r a price to pay. I pray over everyone who has lost their life to gun violence but I sit here and think about the Idaho murders for example, if they had a gun they could be alive right now. We truly cannot take the evil out of the world but we can bear arms to protect ourselves from it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Dude people always pray after these things and while it’s a nice sentiment it’s not enough, we need action. The majority of shooting deaths in this country happen with legally owned firearms. In a country with more guns than people (about 1.5 guns/person) it shouldn’t be surprising that it’s negligibly easy to illegally use a gun that’s not yours.

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

Also to my knowledge there’s not much proof to show that guns really protect people at all. In the United States areas of higher gun ownership are almost always the areas with higher rates of suicide, crime, and somewhat obviously, shooting deaths.

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

I feel like in America the response to proposed gun control is that ‘well we have so many guns that if the good guys give up theirs then only the bad guys will be armed’. Can we at least agree that, however we go about it, reducing the number of firearms is a good thing? Just like how nuclear de proliferation is a good thing even though the strategy is difficult to agree upon?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

All yall downvoting this person but we have a problem with violence and mental health. The rich and powerful want us to argue between kids dying and disarming ourselves when we should be talking about the underlying hatred and division leading people to do this stuff. A school shooter, a nazi, and an instrument of corrupt power will all be armed and ready to harm your community. Will you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

Most of the shootings we have in this country likely happen because we have so many guns. The majority of shootings aren’t done in cold blood, they happen either by accident bc someone fired a gun off by mistake, by suicide because someone happened to have a weapon while they were in a suicidal episode, or in the heat of the moment on the street because both parties risked getting shot if they didn’t shoot first and ask questions later. We create our own violence

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

Honestly this just comes across as fear mongering. School shooters are a uniquely American creature because of our lack of meaningful gun control. The rich and powerful don’t need firearms to oppress us, look at how well they’re doing with all of us armed to the teeth. They don’t care that our kids are dying from shootings as often as they die from cancer or car crashes, they’re selling healthcare and firearms at fantastic margins

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

Also they got a single downvote and it wasn’t me. I understand where they’re coming from I just disagree about the solution

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

You completely just changed the basis of your argument. You were claiming that guns cause mass fatalities. In a debate you rebuttal with factual evidence disproving the other persons claim u don’t bring up a new claim. Ur throwing out statistics without forming a coherent argument.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Ah well apologies then, that wasn’t my intent. My argument might be more broad than what you’re wanting to focus on, I’ll happily elaborate about a specific part of my claim if you want tho. I’m arguing that school shootings and other mass shootings are the direct result of American gun laws. I’m also pointing out that our uniquely high number of annual shooting deaths in general are the direct result of our weak gun laws.

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Anonymous replying to -> fuuuckyikyak 1w

^I’ll happily expand on that tho if you find it still unclear

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