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Genuine question for conservatives who are against government assistance and Healthcare being affordable. By default shouldn’t that make you pro living wage? So then a person working at McDonald’s could easily afford groceries and private healthcare?
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Anonymous 3d

Estonia has a 20% tax rate and somehow has free healthcare. Yes I know only 5 million people live there. We have the biggest economies and a lot of people, so funding healthcare should not be much of our taxes anyways.

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Anonymous 3d

they want regular people to suffer. frankly their preference would be to drop the pretense and just have slaves do most labor anyways.

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Anonymous 3d

No (not a conservative at all but know many), they say that someone at McDonalds doesn’t deserve a living wage because those jobs are for elderly and teenagers who don’t need the money. They say those jobs shouldn’t pay rent, transportation, and food let alone health insurance.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3d

Estonia has an insanely efficient government. After independence they decided to start from the ground up rather than adapt the previous soviet style government structures. So they have a super streamlined bureaucracy, handle many things online that for us involve tons of offices and storage and stuff.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3d

We spend money so inefficiently and on the dumbest shit in this country that raising and lowering the tax rates will not make a difference. We are just corrupt af. If little Estonia with a low tax rate can fund basic needs out of the citizens' pockets while also having a free market, then surely many countries can too

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3d

Important to note that the healthcare is paid by the “social tax” though. The employer pays a rate of 33% of your gross salary. So if you make 1k a month, your employer also pays 330 to the gov. 20% is used for pension and 13% is used for health insurance

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3d

But still, it is possible to have an efficient system for healthcare without breaking the bank

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3d

Definitely. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re healthier on average than we are. We have more people with chronic conditions than many of our economic peers

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3d

True, there are a lot of preventative factors and the way the medicine is practiced too. Quality over quantity

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3d

I mean in the US a large number of people have healthcare as part of their compensation for their job, but still have a deductible of thousands of dollars before they’re covered.

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