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“Oh the civil war wasn’t about slavery it was about states rights” yeah states right to what? OWN SLAVES
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Anonymous 13w

No it was about a state's right to succeed from the Union

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Thats why the North said they were fighting to preserve the Union

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

secede* dumb mistake

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Yes the South wanted to leave to preserve slavery and yes the War did have the effect of ending slavery but you're a fucking lunatic if you think that they were fighting the war for the black people experiencing slavery and not for the country's economic and political goals.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Why did they want to secede

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Lincoln's idea before the war was to send the slaves back to Africa

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Not joking no

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 13w

They wanted to be independent

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Yeah but why

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

The North didn't want them to because they wanted to preserve the Union

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

No why did the south want to secede in the first place

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

They wanted to be independent

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Why

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

I think they had economic incentive or something?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

and what was the foundation of the south’s economy? What type of labor was used?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Well, the southern economy was agrarian, based on monoculture exports, while the northern economy was industrializing. This means that the north and south had divergent economic interests, and any economic policy would either help the north and hurt the south, or vice-versa. So sectional conflict was always going to happen

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

But the south’s economy was based on slavery. It wouldn’t have been able to function the way it did if it didn’t feature slavery. So north-south conflict came to resolve around slavery because naturally, everybody associated slavery with the south

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Dude this has been so played out by now 💀 you are straight up dishonest if you wanna claim the civil war wasn’t about slavery. Read what any serious historian has to say about it

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

So you would agree the South seceded and the North then declared war to stop the succession?

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

Or are you all stuck clinging to the idea that the Civil War was based on some civil rights movement?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

That’s not really in contention. The north initially fought to prevent secession, with abolition becoming a secondary war goal as the war went on. This doesn’t mean that nobody in the north was anti slavery, though, or that no northern politicians or generals entered the war intending to end slavery

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

You didn’t answer

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 13w

Lowk not talking to you lil bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Lowk you were before you conveniently decided to avoid my question

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

And the fact that the north didn’t initially invade to abolish slavery, doesn’t mean that the south didn’t secede to preserve slavery

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 13w

Ik

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

I never said it did

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

Thanks for admitting to avoiding my question lol.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 13w

This whole conversation is supposed to be about why the south seceded

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Anonymous replying to -> bongo_fury 13w

It was about the point of the war

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