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do conservatives understand that one side wants human rights and the other side doesn’t? like do they know that’s what’s happening? like yeah there will be crazy violent people that want human rights who won’t stop to get it.
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Anonymous 1w

The “human rights in question” are illegal immigrants flooding our country, children being able to transition, drag queen story hour, and abortion. Yea I’d be happy with all that taken away.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

People being put into concentration camps, people not having access to mental health care, freedom of speech/expression/sexuality/economic freedom to participate in that/parental freedom/ freedom of education/ and healthcare that every single respected country on the earth has.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Those “concentration camps” are immigration detention centers that are legal and better quality than most American prisons where those migrants would have stayed at. No one is taking freedom of speech or any of that, no one is taking your freedom of association, idk why you bring up education healthcare etc no one wants to take away education or healthcare.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Also other human rights, throwing ever black person they can in prison so they can push the prison industry slavery complex, and thus demonizing every black person because one crazy person did one thing, and keeping going on that point the abuse faced by police officers still happening today, and then abuse faced by other people after students were lynched and this is no small issue. That’s just one tiny part of race in human rights I can keep going with that for 10+ messages

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You are fighting for issues that don’t exist, no one wants to put black people in jail.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

They are legal you’re right. wanna know what else was legal? the fucking holocaust. the government did it so it was legal. “better quality than most prisons” what separates the two? oh yeah one had no crime committed. crazy right? you brought up drag shows why would you bring that up if it weren’t going directly against everything I said? banning drag shows is an affective ban on everything I listed

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Immigration detention centers hold migrants for up to 2 weeks these are for people with deportation rulings already, people aren’t held there for months. Entering the United States illegally without documentation is a crime and the punishment for that crime is deportation. Again no one wants to ban drag queen story hour for adults we just don’t want children doing that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

You are ignorant to the system built for you, by people that look like you. Cities were red lined, property taxes were lowered in black communities and schools were not funded. No school, poor communities, a cycle of discrimination, making every aspect of the culture illegal, you directly link being black in these areas to prison. They were built like this for a reason. There is a reason they said “except as means to a punishment” in the 13th Amendment.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You bring up issues from the 50s as if those policies are still being enacted, news flash Jim Crow ended in the 60s. No one is advocating for Jim Crow policies on the main stream right wing.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Again, parental freedom. If I can choose to send my child to a catholic school so they can preach about incest, rape, and murder then I can let my kids go to an appropriate drag show. If they were doing it without my permission that's one thing, but that's not a thing. Even if it isn't appropriate do you also want to make it illegal for a parent to let a child watch a rated R show or movie? like come the fuck on.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

A parent would be shunned for taking their child to a strip club what makes drag queen shows any different. Also it’s not parental freedom if these schools are taking these children to these shows and inviting drag queens to speak at school. No such thing as an appropriate drag show.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

No dude that's not the case. Just because a white person can go to a poor school doesn't mean these communities were built to harm black people. just because a black person can go to a rich school doesn't mean racism is over. They aren’t segregated because that’s illegal. but that doesn’t stop poor communities from always being predominantly black and brown in cities because that’s how the government intended it to be. Segregation doesn’t exist, but the scar still does, that’s how scars work

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You can’t complain about a system which doesn’t exist anymore yea it sucks that black and brown communities are poor but it’s not enacted by government policy anymore and to say that it is is a bad misread of the situation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

drag shows don’t have nudity and alcohol served on a plate in front of you. It’s makeup. it’s literally just make up. Are you aware of what a drag show is? It’s who has the best makeup in the drag. Ru Paul’s drag show literally is shown on public tv because there’s nothing wrong with it. It’s entirely appropriate for any audience. It just hurts your feelings because it’s weird and not normal. That’s the entire point of it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Drag shows show are explicit shows and you know that it is as well, you do know just cause it’s shown on national tv doesnt make it not explicit you can have nudity on the air it isn’t crazy, also the main issue is schools doing it I can find middle ground in allowing parents to do it with their children it’s still weird asf.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

and I completely agree with you on schools not allowing people to invite drag artists to perform at that schools without permission. It’s shouldn’t be illegal but it shouldn’t be allowed. Just like no religious speaker should be allowed, no one from any us military branch should be allowed (they literally kill people much worse than religion or drag) or any ideology that is similar in any way to any of those. i believe schools should be allowed to educate on those including religion

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I can agree with you on that

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

but they didn’t, they didn’t have nudity, ever. I find drag shows comedic. Do i go to them just because? no. what would my reaction as a kid be “oh this person looks crazy and funny. they are doing a silly voice” that’s 100 times better than some christian fuck telling an 8 year old girl her dress is too short and people are going to want to fuck her. BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

I do have to go it’s my girlfriend’s birthday and we are going out with family. good discussion i probably won’t come back later

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

We have different values of morality so this debate won’t go anywhere.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You have a nice one homie.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

We can’t complaint about a system that doesn’t exist anymore? Then what about the effects of the system. Society and culture are difficult to actively change. Even after legislation is changed, it takes a LONG time for things to become as they would have been without the legislation in the first place, if this ever even happens. Only ignorant fools reject this.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Let me guess. Your morals come from a fairytale book. 🤣

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