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Liberal Zionism does not exist You can’t believe in the tenets of liberalism while also believing in an ethnostate. An ethnostate that commits genocide, that bans the marriages of people with different faiths, that bans gay marriage. It’s incompatible
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Anonymous 3w

I mean liberal states historically speaking have done a ton of genocide and colonialism. It’s liberalism for the colonizer group.

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Anonymous 3w

They are perfectly consistent actually. The real answer is that liberalism is bad, only Marxist socialism solves for imperialism and colonialism.

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Anonymous 3w

most countries are ethnostates btw

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

What abt genocide is a liberal value? How does liberalism ideologically fit into it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

HA!

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 3w

Bro do you ever log off 💀😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

He truly is as unhinged as the joker

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Not today. Stuck tinkering with 3 buttons since 6:30AM so I’m bored.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3w

But not wrong 🤭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3w

I did not say it was a liberal value. I said that historically speaking they aren’t particularly contradictory. Settler colonial states tend to pursue highly egalitarian ideologies for the colonizers. Think about where liberalism developed. England, the United States, France, Latin America.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Even democratic socialism gained heavy support within settler colonial societies like South Africa, Australia, and indeed Israel. They simply pursue egalitarianism for the settler group. Liberalism is even used to justify colonialism, by saying “look at the progress we are bringing to replace savagery.”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3w

#1 makes a reasonable point that I think is worth accepting to some extent, but it’s a bit of a sweeping one and lacks nuance and somewhat reductive about the hypocrisy. Liberalism created the abolitionist movements that freed a lot of the colonies as well as created civil rights languages that exist within a lot of the constitutions of those countries. We did betray those countries during the colonization years though 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 3w

I view liberalism as having been a great social good. And I myself am a democratic socialist, even as I recognize the colonial history of my ideology. I just think it’s important to see what the flaws in our ideologies are so that we can better address them. It’s not productive to say “my ideology doesn’t allow x” as it leaves a blind spot if that is actually the case.

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