US Politics on Sidechat | GIVE DUE PROCESS. If you want to deport someone, do so legally. Abide by the American way of life, in our land, our laws. If you cannot do that or are offended by it, then leave. END OF DISCUSSION.

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GIVE DUE PROCESS. If you want to deport someone, do so legally. Abide by the American way of life, in our land, our laws. If you cannot do that or are offended by it, then leave. END OF DISCUSSION.

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Anonymous 5w

Careful now, you’ll hurt their feelings telling them to do something so upsetting as following their own laws

Anonymous 5w

Literally agree with deporting most illegals, but how can you not see the extreme mismanagement of this administration with dozens of stories of people getting deported or even just arrested that shouldn’t be

Anonymous 5w

Dude you realize deportation has always happened this way?

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Anonymous 5w

Yes. Give due process to all citizens!

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Anonymous

#2 5w

That’s the issue, they aren’t citizens if there here illegally.

Anonymous

#2 5w

Due process actually applies to all persons in the US, not just citizens

Anonymous

#4 5w

It literally does not matter the constitution guarantees due process to every person

Anonymous

#2 5w

How do you determine whether someone is a citizen or not without due process?

Anonymous

#7 5w

Do we even have the resources to do that for every single one

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Anonymous

#9 5w

Yes

Anonymous

#9 5w

no don't listen to them

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Anonymous

#8 5w

If we don’t have the resources to constitutionally do something correctly, then we shouldn’t be trying to do that thing in the first place. Looking for ways to subvert the constitution is looking for ways for American democracy to fall.

Anonymous

#5 5w

we are doing the constitutionally correct thing we aren't breaking our own laws

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Anonymous

#5 5w

the INA allows this

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Anonymous

#8 5w

The INA allows for due process to not be applied? That sounds like an unconstitutional law to me

Anonymous

#5 5w

it's part of law illegals don't get the same due process

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Anonymous

#8 5w

Quick civics question: which takes precedent, the constitution or a law?

Anonymous

#5 5w

why would you want to waste tax dollars going through every individual illegal immigrant that's so backwards

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Anonymous

#8 5w

If you create a subclass of people in a country that due not have due process, you can justify putting anyone in that class. This is a simple lesson in how fascism works.

Anonymous

#7 5w

Law does the constitution allows it that's why it's a law how it's allowed to be a law and why it got passed

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Anonymous

#8 5w

Because the minute we stop caring about due process is the minute that we've allowed a police force to be above the law.

Anonymous

#10 5w

Bro they aren't a subclass they are ILLEGAL yk like broke the law 😂😂😂

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

#8 5w

How do you determine who’s illegal?

Anonymous

#8 5w

You do realize that nearly 1,000,000 “illegals” actually legally came here. Trump just didn’t like that Biden let them in so now he’s saying they’re criminals, trying to convince feeble minds such as yourself that they’re actually these horrible criminal scum, even tho they did nothing wrong.

Anonymous

#8 5w

Notice i didnt say a subclass of citizens? I said a subclass of people. If you say that anyone who is illegal does not get a day in court where the state proves they are illegal, then the state can accuse anyone of being illegal and remove them, whether or not they are actually illegal, because the state no longer has to prove it.

Anonymous

#10 5w

facism makes them a subclass of citizens

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Anonymous

#5 5w

what's the source for this and exiles are ment to leave eventually

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Anonymous

#8 5w

You can’t make a deal with someone then say “actually the old boss gave you too much time so I’m gonna cancel our contract”

Anonymous

#8 5w

Bro what?

Anonymous

#5 5w

sure you can he's the president 😂

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Anonymous

#5 5w

we never should have let them in anyways it's so dumb

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Anonymous

#8 5w

That’s a fair debate to have. But we shouldn’t treat the people who were told it was legal like they’re criminals. Not only is it immoral, it is unconstitutional. The president shouldn’t have the authority to override the constitution.

Anonymous

#5 5w

the president can decide to change that legal status it was never permanent

Anonymous

#8 5w

That shouldn’t be ok!!

Anonymous

#8 5w

Like he should have the right to not extend it, absolutely

Anonymous

#8 5w

But he shouldn’t have the right to say “actually your contract ends early. Oh and also I’m going to convince my voter base that you’re all criminals who deserve this”

Anonymous

#5 5w

why shouldn't it be and they aren't treated like a criminal if they self deport which most do

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Anonymous

#8 5w

Because those people were promised something. In literally any other situation, there are legal protections against breaking contracts like that. I don’t believe the president should be held above that. That’s incredibly dangerous for democracy. Even if Donald Trump does nothing dangerous himself with that (id argue he has already) what’s stopping the next democrat president from doing it?

Anonymous

#8 5w

Except it hasn’t. In the past, illegal immigrants were taken if substantial evidence pointed to their illegal migration, they then received a right to trial and, if found guilty, were deported back to their own country. Nowadays, immigrants can be deported off minimal reasoning and are not allowed the right to a fair trial, with notable examples such as Abrego Garcia being deported without ever stepping foot in any coutroom.

Anonymous

#9 5w

Yes we do, and we know that because we’ve done immigration sweeps like this before, though definitely not to the extent it’s at now.

Anonymous

#8 5w

why would you want to waste tax dollars holding immigrant at a detainment center in florida where they're mistreated, rather than giving everyone due process which is cheaper than housing them?