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question: if abortion is murder, and women are prosecuted for taking measures into their own hand to achieve it, are men that pressure/aid them into doing it not accessories to murder? someone clarify. im only pre law but uh thats what it sounds like?
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Anonymous 1w

with that line of thought, something like that. i think doctors are prosecuted in some states for providing it

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Anonymous 1w

Yes! But unfortunately proving rape is extremely difficult in most cases and most never have any evidence at all. It fucking SUCKSSSSS but yeah 100% ur right

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

they are! in my state actually. so my question is: is coercing and /or providing resources to a woman to cross state lines for an abortion not aiding and abetting? or even for buying a plan b? why do only the doctors (rendering care as they should bc of their oath) and women (seeking potentially life saving care) get charged? theres a third party in this situation, yet i never hear of any accountability for the roles they played

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

im not saying the woman shouldn’t be able to do it. this is a pro choice household. but if a man is taking her, or paying, or coercing…thats a crime too no? why is there no prosecution for that? i know why but yk

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Anonymous replying to -> llyas_waterbottle 1w

im not even talking about rape. you have a sneaky link, get pregnant, he tells u to get rid of it. u live in a pro life state. he goes with you or gives u money for the procedure…uh if its murder…THATS AIDING AND ABETTING. abortion is healthcare and everyone should have access. but if some ppl decided it isnt, EVERYONE should be charged. but ive yet to hear of a man being charged for aiding and abetting a “murder”🧐

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

OHHHH WAIT I totally read ur post wrong but still agree lol! That’s sooo fucking true tho I didn’t think of that… my mind is racing with different scenarios of why this would apply bc so many women don’t even get to choose if they keep it or not like if they are in a DV situation.. 100000% they should be held accountable too… tho I feel like I need to state I am pro-choice just responding to if it WAS considered murder

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Anonymous replying to -> llyas_waterbottle 1w

no yeah me too. while i dont want any of my sisters to be in such a situation, DV or not, i think maybe, just maybe in the spirit of pro choicehood, if the consequences for men were equal to those for women. maybe thats the incendiary point for men to be more careful ab going raw and/or spreading std/stis. if they had the same threat we do. idk.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Yea maybe… but men can still leave. They aren’t the ones carrying the baby so if they get a girl pregnant. Instead of convincing her to get rid of it, they just might dip. Maybe that’s a better option for the women that do want to keep it but I’m sure there are tons of women who are more fearful of losing their partner (maybe from abuse, manipulation, whatever). I do think it would certainly help but abortions just such a sticky topic bc there are SOOO many different situations.

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Anonymous replying to -> llyas_waterbottle 1w

And I think all these situations we’ve been talking about are why we are pro-choice.. because we know women deal with the unimaginable and we just want the best for our sisters. Idk what the right answer is, but I’m fully on board to whatever will given women the most support and ensure that women aren’t the only ones dealing with consequences when the men have an equal or greater part in it

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Anonymous replying to -> llyas_waterbottle 1w

well said. idk i was just thinking, with all the rhetoric about childbirth. i think perhaps, a more level playing field could be achieved if men faced the same consequences as the women. they do what they want anyways but if there could at least be a penalty, maybe theyd think twice.

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