Anonymous #4 11w

Agreed- Trump sold himself to the jews

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Anonymous #7 11w

Never heard that excuse before wow

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 11w

Both murder, but guess which happens more? 🤡

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Anonymous oklahomarose 11w

U seriously trying to compare a medical procedure to 8 year olds being shot?

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Anonymous oklahomarose 11w

Pardon me?

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So yall are comparing taking 2 pills to terminate a zygote to children being killed in school. Yea…ok pal😭

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"what lives" yes good question, care to answer

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what is the rational kind

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“Of a rational kind” That doesn’t explain anything. There’s animals outside of the human species that are “of a rational kind”

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And conservatives pick and choose what lives are and aren’t valuable. U want children to be born and then don’t wanna help the parents take care of them if they need the help..

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you said living beings not person, everything you just said is tangentially relevant to what you said before. you used the following terms that id like you to identify in the context of what you initially said: 1) living beings, 2) rational, 3) right to life, 4) rational substance, 5) rational function, 6) validly inferring, 7) moral choices also can you reconcile the contradiction between "comprehending and validly inferring" with something that doesnt think

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yeah but at least kids have their own independent existence, I’ve never met a kid that lives inside their mom and steals her nutrients

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Anonymous #2 11w

Kids outside the womb are arguably more reliant on the parent than babies in the womb

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Anonymous oklahomarose 11w

but they are their own separate, independent entity, they interact with the world independently of any other being, fetuses are not that way, they don’t interact with the world at large and are entirely on dependent on another human being to survive there is a difference personhood and biological human life, fetuses that aren’t viable don’t have personhood as they can’t exist independently

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yes, the difference between kids and fetuses is that fetuses are not capable of a meaningful life outside the womb before 24 weeks, they REQUIRE the mother’s organs and nutrients, dependency outside the womb is very different than inside bc the kids are still capable of their own independent experiences even if dependent on their parents

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Republicans/conservatives actively want to get rid of SNAP benefits and free school lunches…

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The specific thing I argue is that if your “right to life” requires someone else’s organs, then that someone else’s bodily autonomy trumps your right to life If someone needs a kidney to survive, people can choose not to give up their kidney bc of bodily autonomy, I see it the same way for fetuses, if you need another human being’s organs for survival, they can cut you off at any time bc of bodily autonomy

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Ok once again, not just humans are rational as per this definition

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and I don’t think being biologically alive is what makes a human being’s rights, I think that comes at birth, it’s arbitrary but so are most social constructs, unless we started giving social security numbers to fetuses, I don’t think we should give rights to them either

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The biological use of the womb has little to do with this argument imo, natural law and the Christian argument I reject fully simply because I reject natural law Is the womb for holding a fetus? Yes, but that doesn’t mean it has to do its intended biological purpose. Our mouths are for eating, but oral sex is pretty nice too And I think bodily autonomy outside of certain cases where it’s a social safety hazard otherwise (psychiatric holds, vaccinations) and I don’t think abortion fits that

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This is a moral debate, morals are opinionated, there is no absolute morality Rights are social constructs, none of them actually exist, we create them as a society to promote social stability, but they aren’t physical things that actually exist or are based in any sort of objective guide

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I mean I’ve studied moral systems like Kant, Bentham, and natural law in college My idea is that there is no unified moral framework that fits all scenarios well, most moral frameworks are absolutely destroyed at their extremes whether it be natural law, utilitarianism, or Kantian ethics

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or perhaps we either simply haven’t found a strong moral framework as a society or that morality is merely relative and not absolute

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systemic racism is why black women have more abortions, if black women weren’t disadvantaged in this country the abortion rates would be similar to that of other races

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Anonymous #9 11w

I’m talking about 90% of abortions (baby murder) that are elective, not TFMR

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Anonymous oklahomarose 11w

Still, one is sentient life capable of feeling pain and fear, the other is alive but not exactly sentient. Also abortions aren’t made as a light decision many have to deal with potential side affects of abortion.

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