Anonymous #1 4w

mmmm that’s a very good point, almost a form of subconscious conflict with themselves? I have a lot of family who fall into that camp, and ironically they also tell themselves (well, some of them…) that “if I was alive during slavery, I’d be a part of the Underground Railroad” like boo no you wouldn’t, but I think the conflicting nature of those beliefs is interesting. people have trouble recognizing their own faults, and I’d imagine that difficulty grows with severity of said fault.

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Anonymous OP 4w

(by no means excuses them nor their behavior and loyalty, but it’s interesting to analyze imo)

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Anonymous OP 4w

My dad was a Trump supporter in 2016, got caught up in the hype of his friends on the jobsite, his neighbors. But he didn’t support Trump in 2020 or 2024. My dad may be a conspiracy nut with a warped sense of logic, but he ain’t stupid, and his warped logic is consistent. And his opinion of Trump now is that he’s in on all the same conspiracy shit as all the other politicians lmao

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Anonymous #1 4w

in all honesty I love that your dad was able to break out of it!! I’m dealing with a similar situation with my mom, with the exception of her retaining her loyalty for all 3 elections, and she STILL states that she’d do it again. like shoot me already

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Anonymous OP 4w

I honestly love having a conspiracy nut dad because he taught me from a young age to question official narratives. I think he goes too far in outright rejecting EVERY official narrative, but I’ll always ask my questions.

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Anonymous #3 4w

*discourse And yes I’ll respond

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Anonymous #3 4w

Okay, in the most basic sense: - our funding and arming of genocide - our ethnic cleansing of immigrants (documented and undocumented alike) - our increasing attacks on the trans community, essentially trying to push our identities out of society systemically once again - the forced transition from a three-branch-based checks and balances framework to an attempted top-down executive rule —- to expand, the record breaking violations of court orders, violations of SC rulings, and weaponizing the

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Anonymous OP 4w

SC in order to achieve ideological gains in constitutionally-protected areas - the expansion and re-enforcement of manifest destiny - the systemic support for vocally white supremacist organizations - the systemic support, and integration, of both white supremacists and Christian nationalists - the expansion on the surveillance state created by the Patriot act via Palantir and its direct governmental ties - the forced integration of artificial intelligence into military systems for the goal of

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Anonymous OP 4w

Automated warfare and execution (using palantirs surveillance systems) - the attempts to further defranchise voters - the drafted executive order to federalize and station the NG at polling places this upcoming 2028 election must I continue?

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Anonymous OP 4w

OH for good measure: NSPM-7, the FBI compiling lists of dissidents basically

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Anonymous OP 4w

Enforcing the border is not ethnic cleaning. I think Trump goes too far occasionally but respectfully that’s hyperbolic. Transgenders should not be harassed but nobody saying that minors shouldn’t get it without parental consent is reasonable. We still have three branches and if dems win the midterms the congress can push back. Republicans like Rand Paul (I like him) push back too.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Requiring a drivers license (or even a birth certificate and marriage certificate, although I understand pushback there more so) to vote is not the same as a country like nazi German which flat out doesn’t even hold elections.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Trump won more Hispanics than ever before. Christians have influence but religious liberty still exists and is celebrated by even most of the moderate right.

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Anonymous #3 4w

it is inherently a form of disenfranchisement of eligible voter IDs are not automatically distributed to every single eligible voter at no cost, which we are not doing. And I saw your other comment. You can’t claim it’s “enforcing the border” when the vast majority of detainees have no record at all, and they’re targeting and detaining residents that have legal status? I guess I should’ve also included “or outright denies the issues at hand” in my original post.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Who voted for trump does not matter in regards to his actions and impacts of said actions. Guess what, plenty of poor people voted for him too, and he’s happily fucking them over.

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Anonymous OP 4w

We have had government tracking forever. State DMVs, the IRS, etc… But I get your concern of compiling lists. But what more info would they need than tracking people the ways the govt always has

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Anonymous OP 4w

The fact they crossed illegally or their visa expired is grounds for removal under law. These laws existed before Trump, the difference is he actually takes his enforcement duties from congressional laws as an executive seriously.

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Anonymous #3 4w

that’s the scary part. They’ve tracked us in depth since the patriot act, down to our every movement with the history of it all, but theyre still compiling a list of political (and societal in a way) dissidents. they will make use of that list eventually, and that’s what worries me, especially with this new combination of artificial-intelligence powered warfare and surveillance.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Name an inherently white-centric thing he has done. Not based on crime or immigration but purely on skin color.

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Anonymous #3 4w

I will say though I recognize the complexity and weirdness of this situation, like we’re basically living through the history we were taught as children and it’s honesty hard to grapple with

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Anonymous OP 4w

Voter ID is a 80-20 issue not some nazi position. People claim tons of people are turned away from the polls due to not having an ID. I work retail and have tons of customer stories but never once has a customer said it was unfair they had to show an Id to pick up an expensive package. And that I was being oppressive for asking to see one.

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Anonymous #3 4w

purely on skin color? I mean we need to discuss immigration in that bc it’s inherently about skin color, we’re creating new avenues for immigration for white South Africans and specific Europeans while closing avenues for nearly all others (or heavily restricting) Aside from immigration, his attacks on diversity equity and inclusion is inherently racially motivated. Like we’re talking about the same guy who paid for an entire newspaper page to call for the death sentence for the Central Park 5

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Anonymous #3 4w

voter ID in and of itself is not bad, it depends on HOW it’s implemented as I mentioned. voter ID laws are only oppressive when they’re implemented without free and automatic distribution of eligible IDs, and we already have roughly 40% of the population that consistently do not vote for one reason or another (commonly lack of access), so this will indeed expand the impact of disenfranchisement in the United States regardless of your personal beliefs.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I’d personally support a voter ID law if it had comprehensive language to ensure that every eligible citizen is sent a voting ID, and that there were a crew in each state to ensure every unhoused person is able to get access to one, while also setting up a new form of distribution at birth to avoid the issue down the line

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Anonymous OP 4w

Immigration being allowed (you mentioned SA) is the opposite of fascism. DEI is discriminating against asians in college admissions (for example), why not just be color blind and treat everyone equally.

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Anonymous #3 4w

mate, as I’ve been repeatedly saying, ICE is not solely targeting people with expired or undocumented status, it’s been well documented that they’ve targeted people on VALID student visas and green cards. they sold this entire ethnic cleansing as “targeting violent criminals only” yet the vast majority of detainees don’t have a single violent crime on their record. please, at least be consistent. These are people we’re talking about, with complex live and deep relationships established here

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Anonymous OP 4w

Yay we have a little common ground. I would also like for DMVs to not charge for IDs, I’m with you there.

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Anonymous OP 4w

imagine if that happened to YOU, the impact it would have on your life and everyone you know. please at least try to feel empathy.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Oh my god I agree, charging for a license is one of the biggest fucking scams in this country (and imo one of the largest “fuck you”s to the working class and those in poverty)

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Anonymous #3 4w

saying “fuck the DMV” is a truly apolitical stance in America

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Anonymous OP 4w

I have empathy for children split by family separation. I also have empathy for murdered babies. Trump should focus more on saving life in the womb, instead of having an immigration obsession. I like how the pope has both of my positions. But there need to be borders.

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Anonymous #3 4w

The reason why DEI is still needed is because of our history, in an ideal world there would be no need for any consideration of one’s race, gender, sex, orientation, etc, but historically and presently we’ve prevented people from being allowed into certain positions, especially ones of power, on the premise of them being members of a certain group if that makes sense it feels like that era is “long past” but in all reality we’ve never gotten out of it, it’s just changed yk?

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Anonymous OP 4w

At its core, DEI is about trying to ensure that everyone has an equal chance and opportunity, like an equal starting like in a race!

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Anonymous OP 4w

DEI could be necessary I get where you’re coming from. But if it gotten rid of it’s going to help Asian immigrants not just white people

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Anonymous OP 4w

Visas should be given to serious students who are here to become doctors for example not students who want to physically destroy property as Columbia university

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Anonymous #3 4w

I appreciate you, and hey it’s fair it’s not like every group receives the same “treatment”(for lack of a better word) from diversity equity and inclusion, it’s dependent on the historical and present oppression that each demographic faced, but I view it as practically an attempted remedy rather than a long-term thing or something yk? In the long-term, I hope we reach a world where we don’t have these divisions based on our individual traits, then we wouldn’t need a remedy yk!

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Anonymous #3 4w

Hey that’s a fair point, and that comes down to the eligibility of the student visa process and it’s a fair discussion to be had, but imo I don’t think that’s the goal of the current admin :( In all honesty, I believe they’re weaponizing stuff like that in order to garner support from the population, while ultimately striving for their own personal goals, whatever those may be.

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