
I don’t live in the UK, but I’ve seen the statistics, the rape inquiry, and the countless examples of places where natives are minority and subjugated. You do not have to live in Israel or in Palestine to understand the conflict, do why do I have to have first hand experience for this?
Yes it is an invasion. incursion of an army for conquest or plunder. There is no justification for overpowering a small population unless you are trying to ethnically cleanse them. There is no justification for why many London counties have 50%+ Middle Eastern recent migrants, who espouse their culture and their Islam, unless that is the dominant power you want.
dipshit you’re doing the bidding of the “elites” right now. Who the fuck do you think is funding the bullshit you’re spreading? why do you think 4chan’s pol board was discovered to be an intentional plant by Jeffrey Epstein and the like in order to radicalize the masses towards extremism? you’re a literal clown.
and don’t try and tokenize the indigenous population for your own exclusionary goals, as the founders of this country held the exact same ideology as you, except in their own favor, aka white supremacy. I wonder why you didn’t mention land-back, either? Or is that too far for the likes of you? surely you don’t need a reminder on Spain’s own history as a colonizing nation as well, right? Hell, the line of demarcation?
You hold their ideology against the Europeans and against the native British. We are not the same. If you want to argue that we should deport hundreds of millions of people from a country that has existed for a while now be my guest. I don’t look at the scar on my right arm why my left bleeds out.
you’re a genuine imbecile, you responded as I was typing my second comment then got pissy when I never saw the question you lobbed. obviously they were, but you’re not being colonized you stupid fuck. the fact that you’re trying to compare MIGRATION to a fucking COLONIAL GENOCIDE is baffling, and it just shows how much of a scumbag you are.
Yes I am. My population is lowering, the other is increasing. My children are being raped, my towns and my communities are being overwhelmed. My land is being taken. And the government will do nothing, and what is happening in Spain is just what I am fighting against. I have a right to exist. England has a right to exist, whether you like it or not.
dipshit, that is not colonization you fucking imbecile. and why don’t you show actual statistics and *proof* that link immigrant populations to the crimes you mention, instead of the native citizens being at fault? you won’t do that though, because you’re merely weaponizing the emotional response of certain crimes rather than relying on actual events and facts. you’re a dirty white supremacist and you’ll one day suffer the consequences for these choices.
you utter moron. look up the definition of the word “falsify” and get back to me; and no, I’m not considering any non-scholarly sources you provide. if you want to provide data, you provide actual studies or scientific research that support your claim; not some bullshit article on a white supremacists blog.
If you can’t contend with what I give you it just goes to show that you don’t actually have anything of substance to say besides insulting me. I can’t be a skinhead if I’m not racist, but see you are told you connect certain ideas with what is bad, not that an idea is wrong. Labels are only an obstacle to the content within.
I don’t give a fuck how I look on your end, that’s the issue in your assumptions. I don’t give a fuck about the claims or perspective of a white supremacist, especially when you’ve gone entirely mask off. Also, did you forget where you pulled the “self hate” race traitor card? you can’t propagandize the conversation acting as if you’re a victim while using century-old white supremacist propaganda.
It’s not wrong, media and education has for a long time suggested that anyone that isn’t white is somehow more spiritual and having a culture. I’ve had to deprogram that, because I used to think that being white meant I had no culture and no identity where as people in Africa and America for example were the only ones who had rich culture and identity.
I don’t believe in eugenics. Eugenics was used to sterilize people who were deemed undesirable. Who am I sterilizing? Also, you are so wrong. You are an academic elitist, not an intellectual. You believe that only those with a certain class that have top education in universities to be the ultimate givers of truth.
Oh my god the “anti-white racism” bullshit too. You’re quite literally just a coward, who as a result of your failures, decided to blame entire demographics instead of change yourself. you, and other white people like you, are the issue. You’re too much of a coward to reflect on yourself, and instead you resort to adopting century old forms of discrimination and hate in an attempt to justify your inadequacy.
You insult me but you can’t contend with me. I know you’ll never believe that you are in fact extremely brainwashed, but maybe one day you’ll understand that people can do things you hate, with good intentions, and you treating me like shit has no good intentions, when you could refrain from the language.
That’s not why though. That’s just your rationalization. It does not make sense to villainize the totality of a culture and heritage because of one historical era in time that has impacts today? Or to imply as though Europeans have less spirituality or culture? You didn’t need to do that.
mate your delusions is nothing more than that: delusions. if you dislike how you’re being treated, maybe reconsider how you treat others. white supremacists don’t deserve a semblance of civility or stability, and I’ll do everything in my power to ensure that. you want to destabilize the lives of countless others on the premise of race? we’ll make sure you’re treated exactly how you deserve. don’t try to appeal to civility when you’ve already dropped the mask.
see how you had to rig that entire statement before even sending it? “Forced on it” “in lieu of overtaking it” you’re giving yourself away. Immigration is not invading a nation, but you seemingly see non-white people migrating as a threat, specifically as one that requires action. you’re too stupid for your own good.
and no one said as such, I said you’re a scumbag for your beliefs, which I described as white supremacy, in which you responded that I was filled with self-hate. you can try propagandizing this as much as you want, but it’s you fault for being stupid enough to regurgitate literal centuries-old documented propaganda tactics.
No I don’t? When I see extremely large numbers and no control or that a government is actively ignoring the people who originally live in those places then that is a problem. I never said I was against immigration. I’ve been against invasion and the disregard of native people that you seem so bent on supporting z
so youre not trying to paint the US or Spain as under invasion? you agree that anyone calling for deportations from the US or Spain would be unjustified, right? or do you admit that the white supremacist OOP was you? surely you don’t need an explanation in how the far-right wing exclusionary nationalist group based in Germany, the AfD, are white supremacists, right?
US has a very different issue from UK. They aren’t in the swamp. I’m not a particular fan of the ICE mortality record; I will say that unchecked migration at large scale and especially ones that are not lawful do call for deportation, no matter from what country or region. If Spain is experiencing the similar problem to UK, I would then call it an invasion. When small communities are overwhelmed I would consider that an invasion in those particular communities, and if it’s a widespread issue the
except an invasion is very specific, and implies malicious intent (as well as collective organization) amongst the “invaders” you can’t assign that merely on the premise of citizen vs non-citizen, but in doing so you’re vilifying the immigrant population in question. is it not the duty of the government to tend to those small communities? should you not be upset at your government for not providing enough social safety nets, instead of redirecting blame for social insecurity onto immigrant
Populations who are less well-off than you are? do you not recognize how you’re just shifting blame onto an easy “target”, rather than actually addressing any issues at hand? you’re just looking for someone to blame, and that so happens to be non-white immigrants looking for better lives. going as far as vilifying them and relying on fringe, unverified, biased sources that confirm your bias instead of reflecting on your beliefs when actual statistics fail to support them.
That’s the thing the government is giving everything to incoming immigrants, while having no safety nets for the native communities that are being forced to undertake them. I’m not villainizing them. I’m just saying they are doing what any homogenous group of people that have mind for their culture alone and expressing it. It’s actually particular to specific regions like the Middle East where that kind of mindset is common
Lmao so now you’re victim blaming. They are less well off, but if they’re bribing the same practices and attitudes from the place that’s less off they will ultimately impose that where they go. And that wouldn’t be an issue if they’d just respect the culture of the host country, and if the government wasn’t giving them favor over natives.
they’re inherently white supremacist nationalists, and they’re near synonymous with the early-stages of the national socialist German workers party in the 20s, aka the nazi party, before Hitler consolidated enough power to enact the dictatorship. you fail to recognize this because you hold similar beliefs as them. your failure to recognize their flaws does not absolve them of such, it only indicates your inability to recognize these things. (which makes sense in regards to how you think you’re
what do you think advocating for restricting (or even reversing via mass deportations) immigrations is? it’s the equivalent of “closing the door” in that scenario. if people are immigrating as a result of unsafe conditions, knowingly forcing them back into those conditions puts you partially at fault for what happens.
Not necessarily equivalent. You would then have a door that has two thresholds, and the opening of one closes another. Also, the whole purpose of that was to propose that an action which results in a direct consequence is not at that point merely an action, not as an analogy for the UK situation.
How do you compare that (if you accept it) with the “home dangers”, and the dangers that have increased for natives due to the government-incentivized invasion. You should also know that the condition of places in Middle East are poor due both to the historical actions of Britain/US and also the kind of social normals in regards to the treatment of women and their own government.
but the issue here is you’re insisting your own subjective perspective of being annoyed and not wanting immigrants is the norm. hence why I focused on the definitions tied in objectivity. for example, I could just as easily say multiple countries are being invaded by white supremacists, but you wouldn’t accept that statement now would you?
and if you still don’t like it. Taking a majority in population and therefore policy making is taking over a country. It’s just not the bloodbath you want to restrict your definitions to be. UK parliament literally admits that appealing to Islam and Muslim communities is becoming more important than to their own native people.
even if we do accept your usage of the word in regards to immigration, it does not change the argument whatsoever. your advocated response is not justified, whether you classify it as an “invasion” or not. hence why you’re being criticized as a white supremacist, and are incapable of acknowledging where other organizations have been recognized as white supremacist due to the shared beliefs at play; and that goes for both you and 4.
go ahead and cite a source for your claim on the “uk parliament” topic; and even if that’s true, do you not recognize the importance of addressing and tending to communities that have been historically and presently underrepresented in both political representatives as well as legislation? other people being treated fairly is not oppressing you; it just feels that way since you’re comfortable with the role of oppressor.
no, it’s not. You’re just seeking to retain power within the role of oppressor. white people are not oppressed within counties that have both historically and presently codified white supremacy, the UK being one of those countries. you just dislike that status quo of white supremacy being dismantled.
Again you assume my position and nothing else. Your cognitive dissonance is astounding. You say ethnic British are not oppressed, yet they lose representation in their own country, are forced to receive large populations of people whose culture are in contradiction to them and in some cases are resentful of them, and who are gaining power while the ethnic population is dramatically decreasing. Is everything so black and white to you?
you have exposed your position time and time again, need I remind you of the “race traitor” bullshit you pulled? oh, “ethnic British” now? did you stop saying white after I asked if you knew the origins of the term? A question in which I’m still waiting for an answer, I might add. did you plan on responding? need I remind you about the royal family, you inbred imbecile?
did you miss the part where I said “even if we accept your use of the word”? what you fail to realize is my argument is not reliant on the definition of invasion, it’s reliant on you perpetrating document white supremacist propaganda and being too stupid to realize as such. that being said, go ahead and run like what is expected of you; especially since you continue to refuse to answer the question of where the term “white” came from in regards to racial groups.
You have mischaracterized me, insulted me, blamed me, misused my own analogies, moved goalposts, diverted from conversation, refused sources after you ask me to provide them assumed bad faith, assumed propaganda means wrong, and that non-scholar material means wrong. Ultimately, I have assumed good faith of you and given benefit of the doubt where you could not. Have a good day.