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That is not happening. You thinking that’s happening is you being a propagandized zombie with none of your own thoughts. Literally just regurgitating nonsense proving my point

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Anonymous #1 14w

Have you been attacked by a gang of migrants or something? Or do you just hear sensationalized headlines

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Anonymous OP 14w

It is happening and there is overwhelming proof, not just the thousands of Moroccan men that are going to sack the small community which is being denied any protection

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Anonymous #1 14w

You can call it nonsense but you have no business to stand on

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Anonymous #2 14w

I don’t live in the UK, but I’ve seen the statistics, the rape inquiry, and the countless examples of places where natives are minority and subjugated. You do not have to live in Israel or in Palestine to understand the conflict, do why do I have to have first hand experience for this?

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Anonymous #1 14w

The subjugated natives bro is talking about is fucking white British people and not the actual subjugated indigenous groups in Europe who are threatened by the exact assimilatory policies the European right supports.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Oh really? Who is forcing large populations on them, who is swallowing their culture? What if I told you that the people coming in now will swallow the British and them?

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The British aren’t losing their culture bro

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So do you just not have any fucking clue about any history before 1776?

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Anonymous #3 14w

Well some British are. But that’s the welsh, Scots, Gaels, northumbrians, Cornish, travelers, and northern Irish being subject to English assimilation. Not the English dudes you’re thinking of lol

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Yeah clearly you don’t know what it is, you’ve made that clear.

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Anonymous #3 14w

There is a legitimate concern of Morocco invading Ceuta, that is something their government has threatened. Dudes looking for jobs in a richer country isn’t what that looks like.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Yes it is an invasion. incursion of an army for conquest or plunder. There is no justification for overpowering a small population unless you are trying to ethnically cleanse them. There is no justification for why many London counties have 50%+ Middle Eastern recent migrants, who espouse their culture and their Islam, unless that is the dominant power you want.

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Oh isn’t that the UK rape inquiry written by the guy who is supported by literal fucking neonazis?

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Nah when the native Americans were being subjected to mass migration of Brits they had the right to fight don’t you think? Or are you pro-colony. You are the pushover that the elites want you to be

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I don’t even use 4chan lmao. You’re so brainshot it’s insane. Can you at least agree that the native Americans were just in defending themselves upon the advent of the mass migration of British to their areas?

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Anonymous #1 14w

I would say they are

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You avoid the question because you exactly where I’m going but you hate white peoples because it’s only colonization when white people are going to other lands and building their infrastructures and buying up land.

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You hold their ideology against the Europeans and against the native British. We are not the same. If you want to argue that we should deport hundreds of millions of people from a country that has existed for a while now be my guest. I don’t look at the scar on my right arm why my left bleeds out.

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Yes I am. My population is lowering, the other is increasing. My children are being raped, my towns and my communities are being overwhelmed. My land is being taken. And the government will do nothing, and what is happening in Spain is just what I am fighting against. I have a right to exist. England has a right to exist, whether you like it or not.

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I say this not out of hatred, but love for my people, that they should not be replaced in their own ancestral homeland. We can ignore the Native American proposition. Do you think it’s right for a native population to be overwhelmed by another?

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Does bro think the Italians were ethnically cleansing the English when they came to New York 💔

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Don’t act like you give a single shit about Native Americans bro

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Your self-hatred and guilt debilitates you. If you cannot love yourself, how could you love anyone like you? Nobody is supposed to be force-fed that.

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Yeah like I wonder if he knows why Spain shares a land border with Morocco lol

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Anonymous #1 14w

“My land” bro you’re from fucking Topeka Kansas or some shit

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https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6810978a41bbc42489eafa81/t/6a314bb1151e511944bd4421/1781615537601/The+Rape+Gang+Inquiry+Report.pdf

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https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

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https://zenodo.org/records/18151364

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Anonymous #1 14w

I don’t care about whether or not a source is scholarly. If its information is not false, why would I contend with it? You alway use these silly barriers. You let elites control what you look at. If you restrict yourself, you only fall into subservience?

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Anonymous #1 14w

“If it’s information is not false, why would I contend with it” is such a fucking silly thing to say oh my god

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Anonymous #3 14w

I mean if you find that an independent journal or someone online has backed up information you can’t just block it off and not look into it for clarity.

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Anonymous #3 14w

All you do is doubt my intentions and make assumptions about how I feel. You attack my character but you can’t attack reality.

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Falsify the data then. Show where there is error.

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Here’s what you look like on my end: I declare a statement about the world You insult me and ask for evidence I provide what I think is evidence You insult me and say it is lying Sounds like an indoctrinated person to me right?

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If you can’t contend with what I give you it just goes to show that you don’t actually have anything of substance to say besides insulting me. I can’t be a skinhead if I’m not racist, but see you are told you connect certain ideas with what is bad, not that an idea is wrong. Labels are only an obstacle to the content within.

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I did. Did you also know that there is a crisis in science. Many peer-reviewed studies are not replicable, which hurts the trust of anyone who isn’t just a bootlicker

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It’s not wrong, media and education has for a long time suggested that anyone that isn’t white is somehow more spiritual and having a culture. I’ve had to deprogram that, because I used to think that being white meant I had no culture and no identity where as people in Africa and America for example were the only ones who had rich culture and identity.

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Anonymous #1 14w

We are taught to hate the British for their empire and we are taught all the wars of Europe, but we were never taught to hate Genghis Khan

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I don’t believe in eugenics. Eugenics was used to sterilize people who were deemed undesirable. Who am I sterilizing? Also, you are so wrong. You are an academic elitist, not an intellectual. You believe that only those with a certain class that have top education in universities to be the ultimate givers of truth.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Because modern people aren’t still suffering from mongol oppression dude that’s so obvious if you think about it for three seconds. Genghis Khan sucked but he isn’t relevant to modern inequality.

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You insult me but you can’t contend with me. I know you’ll never believe that you are in fact extremely brainwashed, but maybe one day you’ll understand that people can do things you hate, with good intentions, and you treating me like shit has no good intentions, when you could refrain from the language.

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Anonymous #3 14w

That’s not why though. That’s just your rationalization. It does not make sense to villainize the totality of a culture and heritage because of one historical era in time that has impacts today? Or to imply as though Europeans have less spirituality or culture? You didn’t need to do that.

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Again you only prove my point. If I am a white supremacist, how come I do not believe that all other cultures should succumb to white cultures, or that white culture should overtake all others?

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Your ideology is destabilizing Europe. I am the stabilizer. I treat people who give me respect with respect. By default I treat them with respect. I do not treat others poorly.

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It would appear so

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how is loving yourself white supremacy. Where did I say you can only love yourself if you are white?

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Are you arguing that a nation has no right to act when a population is forced on it that is in lieu of overtaking it.

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You are arguing against the protections of cultures and societies.

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If I would apply my thinking to every culture that is be subjected to what my culture is being subjected to, would that just make me a supremacist?

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I didn’t say only white. Do you think you should hate yourself for the color of your skin, or others for that matter? I don’t think so.

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I gave you the evidence supporting this. There are videos that show this. The mutilations and the government’s favor given to non-natives. But you refuse to look or contend.

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No I don’t? When I see extremely large numbers and no control or that a government is actively ignoring the people who originally live in those places then that is a problem. I never said I was against immigration. I’ve been against invasion and the disregard of native people that you seem so bent on supporting z

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I also say European culture. I don’t need to use white, but then again, society teaches you that you are when you have to fill out “race” in some government forms and then apply all the negative things to that. I’m saying these things are issues because I see beyond that.

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I’m not painting immigration as an invasion. Yes I’m talking about massive unhealthy amounts of it

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So you know it’s a sign of ethnic cleansing and yet you do nothing?

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US has a very different issue from UK. They aren’t in the swamp. I’m not a particular fan of the ICE mortality record; I will say that unchecked migration at large scale and especially ones that are not lawful do call for deportation, no matter from what country or region. If Spain is experiencing the similar problem to UK, I would then call it an invasion. When small communities are overwhelmed I would consider that an invasion in those particular communities, and if it’s a widespread issue the

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n generally.

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So you’re trying to say that one ethnic cleansing is better than the other? LMAO mister supremacist over here. Hey, at least the people that are deported would have a country, nation and culture to return to.

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No it doesn’t. Invasion: an occasion when a large number of people or things come to a place in an annoying and unwanted way. Cambridge Dictionary

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That’s the thing the government is giving everything to incoming immigrants, while having no safety nets for the native communities that are being forced to undertake them. I’m not villainizing them. I’m just saying they are doing what any homogenous group of people that have mind for their culture alone and expressing it. It’s actually particular to specific regions like the Middle East where that kind of mindset is common

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Lmao so now you’re victim blaming. They are less well off, but if they’re bribing the same practices and attitudes from the place that’s less off they will ultimately impose that where they go. And that wouldn’t be an issue if they’d just respect the culture of the host country, and if the government wasn’t giving them favor over natives.

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Aren’t they classified by their own government as a far right extremist party? Especially for their historical revisionism around the Nazi party. Also, don’t they have ties to neo-Nazis

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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/invasion so can I but you don’t seem to always contend with them

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Any large amount coming with the result of a suppressed native culture often with the help or ignorance of the government, such that the native population is losing its own ability to govern itself is inherently wrong full stop

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I never classified immigration as an invasion

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Anonymous #1 14w

The results outweigh the meaning of the actions.

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Anonymous #1 14w

If I’m closing a door that prevents someone from getting out of a fire, am I simply closing a door or committing murder?

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Even if I’m unaware, even if my intentions are good of neutral, that person still dies.

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Not necessarily equivalent. You would then have a door that has two thresholds, and the opening of one closes another. Also, the whole purpose of that was to propose that an action which results in a direct consequence is not at that point merely an action, not as an analogy for the UK situation.

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Anonymous #1 14w

You have one case where the loss is a profound loss of culture, identity, and representation in your own native country. The other party does not lose this at all if they leave.

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Not really. You misread and misused it because I forgot an intermediary step of explaining to you what my point is since you would assume things, although my example was more ambiguous than intended.

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Anonymous #1 14w

How do you compare that (if you accept it) with the “home dangers”, and the dangers that have increased for natives due to the government-incentivized invasion. You should also know that the condition of places in Middle East are poor due both to the historical actions of Britain/US and also the kind of social normals in regards to the treatment of women and their own government.

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Not all do so, and I already explained to you the principle I am using which you clearly did not listen to

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Anonymous #1 14w

Who the fuck do you know who is villainizing the entirety of European culture?

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Anonymous #3 14w

Bruh I’m in fucking Munich right now lol I don’t think Europeans lack culture

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I don’t think bro knows what an invasion is

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lmao you asked for how invasion would apply and you are just moving goalposts. You are using your own subjective perspective of restricting the definitions only to what you want them to be. C2 is literally qualifying, nobody is debating that C1 is any less a definition.

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and if you still don’t like it. Taking a majority in population and therefore policy making is taking over a country. It’s just not the bloodbath you want to restrict your definitions to be. UK parliament literally admits that appealing to Islam and Muslim communities is becoming more important than to their own native people.

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It is justified https://www.mend.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Power-of-the-Muslim-vote-and-Muslim-voting-patterns.pdf

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Anonymous #1 14w

think about it. Cultures which are in contradiction to British values have an overrepresentation of power

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I like how you always literally ignore everything that is being explained to you. I already explained that the conditions brought about justify the classification of invasion, but again you only focus on the door and not the murder.

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Again you assume my position and nothing else. Your cognitive dissonance is astounding. You say ethnic British are not oppressed, yet they lose representation in their own country, are forced to receive large populations of people whose culture are in contradiction to them and in some cases are resentful of them, and who are gaining power while the ethnic population is dramatically decreasing. Is everything so black and white to you?

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What you seem to think white supremacy is, is simply the ethnic British person having a sense of identity and ancestry and right to their own homeland. Is anyone who wants that for their own homeland a supremacist?

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You are ignoring everything. I already explained to you that the analogy was to the principle of seeing an action not just for it alone but for its consequences and you just ignore that to improperly use it against me. How can I reason with someone so irrational?

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I am seeing the mass immigration for what it has resulted in, as clearly an invasion. That is the nuance that you have yet to comprehend.

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I love how you ignore all your reading comprehension and ignorant failures. I am not going to waste yours or my time answering questions that have no relevance to the actual matters of discussion. Do butterflies steal your attention on the road?

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If this is going nowhere, which it seems like it, why don’t you and I just stop talking. Go mess with #4

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You have mischaracterized me, insulted me, blamed me, misused my own analogies, moved goalposts, diverted from conversation, refused sources after you ask me to provide them assumed bad faith, assumed propaganda means wrong, and that non-scholar material means wrong. Ultimately, I have assumed good faith of you and given benefit of the doubt where you could not. Have a good day.

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