Anonymous #2 2w

The Ukrainian government has suppressed the language and culture of the indigenous Russian speaking population of Donetsk for decades and has now been killing them while labeling them “armed terrorists”. Literally the exact same thing happening in Palestine by the IDF and the death toll of the Ukraine War is actually much higher

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Anonymous OP 2w

Russian is a recognized minority language. Zelenskyy is a native Russian speaker. Russian should likely be granted higher government status but it’s nothing like Palestine. Israel mass expelled Palestinians in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Ukraine did nothing of the sort. Russia has a history of backing puppet ethnic separatist groups in countries whose affairs they want to influence. They did the same in Georgia.

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Anonymous #2 2w

There is in fact a history of settler colonialism in Ukraine- by Russia. Crimea used to be majority Tatar, until it was flooded by Russian-backed settlers, and then the tatars were ethnically cleansed to Central Asia by Stalin.

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Anonymous #2 2w

And, notably. The death toll in Ukraine is so high *because Russia massacres civilians* and sends its soldier into the meat grinder.

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Anonymous #2 2w

This is like citing the Arab Israeli population or the fact that many Israelis speak Arabic as a deflection of their inhumane policies. Like the parallels to Israel and Palestine are so obvious and it’s astounding you don’t see it

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Anonymous OP 2w

A minority language not receiving the equal status that it deserves is not a justification for invading another country and attempting an ethnic erasure of its population. Also, you seemingly are deflecting that Ukraine has never attempted a mass expulsion of ethnic Russians, or denial of citizenship to Russians in the manner of the West Bank. I don’t think Israel’s biggest crime is the marginalization of Arabic.

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Anonymous #2 2w

If anything, Russia is very similar to Israel here. Claiming that Ukraine was part of its ancestral domain and that therefore it should belong to it. Using shoddy justifications of the marginalization of an ethnic group to fulfill its expansionist agenda (just like Israel’s feigned concern for the Druze in Syria). Denial of the historical existence of the ethnic group they seek to erase.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Ukraine just kills those people instead and they have been since at least 2014. I’m also talking about cultural erasure. No need to do mass expulsions when you can just ban kids from speaking Russian in schools and Ukrainize them. Or do you think the Native American residential schools where native customs were literally beaten out of them were totally fine too?

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Anonymous #2 2w

Russia isn’t trying to conquer all of Ukraine. They’re perfectly content to sit back on their gains and laugh as Ukrainian teenagers throw their bodies at Russian machine guns. Russia isn’t trying to turn all Ukrainians into Russians but Ukraine is trying to turn all Crimeans into Ukrainians and that’s really the fundamental difference

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Anonymous OP 2w

Russia and Belarus famously treat their minority languages extremely well. Russia of all countries is such a wild choice for this justification. I don’t like that Russia is marginalized in Ukraine. It’s not a sufficient justification for Russia killing hundreds of thousands of people over it. Russian officials have explicitly claimed that Ukrainians are not a real people. They attempted to invade the entirety of Ukraine, not just the Donbas and Crimea.

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Anonymous #3 2w

Maybe ask yourself why Ukraine feels the need to host missiles to protect themselves against Russia?

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Anonymous #4 2w

Me when I don't know the history of the USSR, WWII, or current events surrounding the start of the current Ukraine war

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Anonymous #4 2w

Okay, I'm asking you. Why would Ukraine feel the need to do that? What did Russia do to provoke them into that exactly?

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Anonymous #3 2w

Russia is an aggressive neighbor who wants to keep power over the formerly-Soviet states. When those states try to break free, Russo often uses military force, as they did with Ukraine

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Anonymous #4 2w

You're dodging. What specifically did Russia do to provoke Ukraine to place the missiles on their border pointed at Moscow? Enlighten me.

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Anonymous #3 2w

Their puppets in the Ukrainian government tried to overturn pro-western legislation that the people voted for, and instead take a pro-Russia stance.

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Anonymous #3 2w

Not to mention that Russia already had a ton of weapons and military equipment at their disposal to attack Ukraine. Why should Russia get to have that but not Ukraine

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Anonymous #4 2w

Okay so you can't give me a clear answer and you're just peddling US propaganda, got it.

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Anonymous #3 2w

lol what? I gave you multiple answers, not that it matters. Ukraine is a sovereign nation, meaning they can ally with and invite in any country they’d like. If Russia doesn’t like it, that’s too bad.

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Anonymous #4 2w

I asked you what Russia did to provoke Ukraine. You have not given me an answer. You're just deflecting and making things up. What "puppets in the government"? Was there a specific instance where a govt official was found out to be a Russian spy and that what you think provoked Ukraine to point missiles at them? Russia "having weapons" is not a provocation. Did Russia antagonize Ukraine with them somehow?

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Anonymous #3 2w

If Russia having weapons isn’t a provocation, then Ukraine having weapons doesn’t justify an invasion.

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