Anonymous #3 1d

silence rightoid

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Anonymous #5 23h

Then nothing happens

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Anonymous #3 22h

Fuck off

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Anonymous #5 22h

Quiet pedo

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Anonymous #2 22h

I don't like Trump I just also dislike leftists

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Anonymous #5 22h

And why do you dislike leftists

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

They tried to kill my Grandpa in Soviet era Ukraine

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

Bc they just keep going in circles and it causes traffic in grid cities

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Anonymous #6 22h

That too

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Anonymous #5 22h

Ah yes because that means all leftists are evil…

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Anonymous #5 22h

I’d blame Soviet era on authoritarian regime over a leftist one. Like if you look at the policies that resulted in famines in genocide, they were authoritative in nature not communistic

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Anonymous #6 22h

This!!!!

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

No but the ones who want to kill others over their beliefs so badly that they will commit a felony on the internet just to espouse that fanatical belief surely are

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

That is the exact same thing that was done to my grandpa and I'm not really opposed to that specific type of leftist seeing serious consequences

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Anonymous #5 22h

That’s authoritative. “You must adhere to my beliefs or you’re undeserving of life”. If you define your enemy by their worst characters, the whole world is evil

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Anonymous #6 22h

the definition of your opposition by their worst character is already being done, see #2's comment assuming I'm a pedophile

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Anonymous #5 22h

Imma just say one thing and not saying it definitely applies to your family but a vast amount of the people targeted my Soviet’s were indeed fascists or fascists sympathizers. So much so that a Canadian memorial dedicated to some of those killed in the purges was blank because all the names to be put on where discovered to have been purged for being collaborators with the Nazis. Food for thought.

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Anonymous #5 22h

The vast majority against the left right now are in fact pedos. Why? Because the left is the only ones trying to hold pedophiles accountable.

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Anonymous #5 22h

No I understand that, it’s a human problem not a partisan problem. But, that doesn’t mean we should stop advocating for mutual understanding and decency, even if you’re standing alone

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

The fascist thing is also true. That’s their whole justification for invading Ukraine today. Do I believe that there’s a significant neonazi presence in eastern Ukraine? No, but a small one yeah.

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Anonymous #6 22h

I mean Zelenskyy did just celebrate a Nazis funeral I believe so not the best look but yeah it’s not enough justification for this war and it’s a flimsy excuse for imperialism at best.

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

I’d argue the left is pretending to try. I feel like they could’ve gotten a lot more done if they really wanted to.

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Anonymous stoner22 22h

No yeah didn’t mean to sound like I agree with russias invasion. Just saying that even today Russia against Nazis is a pretext for violence

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Anonymous #6 22h

Please tell me how lol. The Far right controls every branch of government and a large portion of state government. We have no community organizing mechanisms or unions etc.

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Anonymous stoner22 21h

I honestly don't believe that collaboration or sympathy with the Nazis is any worse than collaboration or sympathy with the Soviets. Neither deserves death, but I wouldn't be opposed to putting them in a Uyghur style reeducation camp

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Anonymous #5 21h

That being said my grandpa's political gripes weren't about left/right social ideology when nationalizing industry, it was about nationalizing industry in the first place.

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Anonymous stoner22 21h

I mean they could straight up refuse quorum like Texas until they release more

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Anonymous #6 21h

The senate at least

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Anonymous #5 21h

we have an authoritarian dictator literally at the helm & ur issue is powerless leftists who want affordable housing… grandpa would be proud

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Anonymous #5 21h

literally reporting his detractors to the secret police…

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Anonymous #8 21h

I mean we're just gonna swing to the opposite social side and get a different dictator if we can't have a dialogue about it

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Anonymous #8 21h

That is literally what my grandpa noticed and why he left

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Anonymous #8 21h

Shockingly, now Russia does have a dictator on the opposite social side

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Anonymous #5 21h

I agree I don’t trust institutional Dems to do anything to limit executive power. But I do trust the more left in the party to push for that at least

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Anonymous #5 21h

ur post was only about reporting non trump supporters to the fbi miss me with the dialogue bullshit

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Anonymous #5 21h

You sound like a fascist.

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Anonymous #8 21h

Yeah if you want to kill people over their beliefs you should be put into a reeducation camp lol

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Anonymous #8 21h

I'm not trying to hide that belief I will openly tell you

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Anonymous #6 21h

The senate is held by establishment politicians and the far right. I can think of maybe 3 “left” people in the senate. The establishment and the far right are the ones supporting pedos and trump, why would they stop him now?

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Anonymous #5 21h

so incredibly disingenuous, you said you rage baited people & reported them. you target minorities & say god knows what until they say something so you can PUT THEM in a reeducation camp. ur insane.

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Anonymous stoner22 21h

No yeah I agree with u, I shouldn’t have said left with the files but Dems

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Anonymous #8 21h

When did minorities come to play in this? I'm targeting the belief that you should be allowed to kill others over what they think or say

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Anonymous stoner22 21h

you see, he doesn’t care about authoritarian dictator when he agrees with the outcome. cuz its not his brothers & sisters dying.

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Anonymous #5 21h

Bye bro. Nothing wrong with nationalizing big industry. Could it have been done better in the USSR maybe, was it because of the imminent threat the Nazis posed to their flat border to the west? Yes.

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Anonymous #5 21h

who exactly do you think leftists are? a minority. and often comprised of actual minorities. and you report them to a fascist dictator. for “reeducation” your own words, you’re literally just a nazi.

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Anonymous #6 21h

Oh yeah 90% of Dems are all talk. Cough cough SCHUMER AND JEFFRIES.

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Anonymous #8 21h

Leftists are about half the voting base

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Anonymous #8 21h

Literally. He’s blue maga at best.

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Anonymous #5 21h

Guys guys if we all have a 3 way we’ll be much calmer

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Anonymous #6 21h

I agree I think we need that right now so we can continue the dialogue

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Anonymous #5 21h

You’re just stupid

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Anonymous stoner22 21h

You won’t be saying that when we’re done having a good time 😈 unless 5 has a degradation kink we can be accommodating

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Anonymous stoner22 21h

God I wish otherwise politics wouldn't be confusing and I could just vote for my favorite sports team color

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Anonymous #5 21h

I wouldn't have to even attempt to talk to people who make up excuses for why my grandpa should have been killed

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Anonymous #6 21h

Thanks bro I don't have that but I love the inclusivity of all beliefs

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Anonymous #5 21h

If it makes you feel better my (great) grandfather was killed in one of the bloodiest battles of the Korean War and I gotta somehow justify that from an American perspective (why were we in Korea in the first place) and from a left perspective (did the Americans there deserve to die for what they did to the north?)

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Anonymous #6 21h

It just feels so horrible knowing that for virtually every war fought, a group od people could have just sat down instead and had a reasonable dialogue. They might not have come out of it with everything they wanted to attain, but millions who died would still be alive today. It makes a lot more sense however when you view this ideology on a micro scale, and personally it makes me mad at everyone who believes it.

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Anonymous #5 21h

Thus is the curse of humanity. The ability to reason beyond any capability ever before seen, but more often than not foregone for the sake of emotional or instinctual reactions with consequences equivalent to “acts of god”.

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Anonymous #5 21h

We might not agree on politics, but I think our view on humanity is very in sync. Like I think the most immediate threat to America is Trump/maga obv but they’re an entire different breed of conservatism more akin to the Nazis than to the party of Reagan or the bush’s. But I think the most long lasting and damaging thing overall to America is the loss of common reasoning and understanding of the opposing sides beliefs. Ever since the fairness doctrine was removed polarization has skyrocketed..

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Anonymous #5 21h

.. to levels not seen since the 1850s

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Anonymous #6 21h

I think thats what most people miss in politics in general. They're a continuation of your moral beliefs, and in almost every case both sides want the same thing morally, only differing on ideas about how to get there. Left and right aren't and shouldn't be enemies, as much as opponents in method or even just acquaintances. The best outcomes in democracy come when we work together and each gives up little concessions, but it can only work if both sides are serious and debate in good faith.

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Anonymous #5 21h

And oftentimes the exact same morals are used, just justified or valued in different ways. Like the whole abortion thing, I totally get that a *majority* of pro life people genuinely do care about the life of the unborn child and view its ability to live as the most valuable thing. Wish more people on the left understood that, and I wish that more people understood that people on the left don’t want to just kill for the sake of it, but rather want to make an informed decision over…

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Anonymous #5 21h

… quality of life as opposed to viability of life. Both come from a place of moral good.

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Anonymous #5 21h

Like society itself, if you go from hunter gatherer Stone Age through all ages to the modern day, the natural progression of society is leftward. It’s just a matter of maintaining a steady rate of change. Change too quick, power vacuums open and set society back decades if not centuries. Change too little, society stagnates and collapses. We need to mediate that, not jump back and forth

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Anonymous #5 18h

Collaboration with Nazis deserves death. I’ll say it with my chest.

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Anonymous #5 18h

I’ll gladly work in good faith with pretty much anyone except Nazis and their apologists, which the vast majority of republicans (at least those with some level of power) now are.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Collaboration with Soviets deserves death following that same logic

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Anonymous #5 18h

I disagree vehemently. The Soviet’s did not organize their entire society around the complete destruction of an ethnic group or rather all ethnic groups that were not them. The Soviet’s did many bad things yes but those are directly caused by the authoritarian nature of the system not the leftwing nature of their economic system. The Soviet’s did not conduct a Holocaust. The Nazis did. You trying to equate a government that attempted to exterminate an entire ethnic group to one that was not.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Yall stop arguing there’s a new drop of Roman coins available for $7-$18 each!!

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Killing people over their beliefs doesn't suddenly become a different thing when the beliefs change

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Anonymous #5 18h

Wrong 🤦‍♂️ stupid rightoid

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Anonymous #6 18h

Nope 😊

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Anonymous #10 18h

I mean above I said pretty much the same thing he did and was agreed with

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Anonymous #6 18h

You were wrong then as well.

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Anonymous #10 18h

True….

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Anonymous OP 18h

What you are describing is the paradox of tolerance and is a rabbit whole many liberals fall in. You would tolerate a person/a party/ a belief system that calls for the extermination of people deemed lesser based on nothing more then their skin/race/sex/ethnicity/religion/etc. you would tolerate Nazis and white supremacy. I do not tolerate that. I do not tolerate the belief that one group of people is superior because of their skin or their religion or their bloodline. None of that matters.

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Anonymous #10 18h

That killing people for disagreeing is authoritarian?

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

I’m assuming you’re talking to me. You can exterminate an ideology without exterminating people

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Anonymous #5 18h

The Nazis deserved to die because of their beliefs and the actions that were directly inspired by those beliefs. They sought to purge the world of non Germanic peoples. The Soviet’s did nothing close to that. They were aggressive in their liquidation of oligarchs and in their nationalization. That is in NO WAY the same as what the Nazis did.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

I mean you could argue the holodomor was a targeted attack against Ukrainians or a targeted attack against dissent

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Anonymous #6 18h

Objectively killing is wrong. When that is done in true self defense it is justifiable. I’m not defending what the Soviet’s did but Thwre is a rationale behind it. The Nazis logic was build on white superiority and racism. Tjats not tolerable and those beliefs should be destroyed. There are objective truths in the world and the notion that white people are superior is objectively false and should be destroyed root and stem.

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Anonymous #6 18h

Nazism won’t die if you allow the Nazis to be free in the world. America imported vast amounts of them and now look at us. We used to be a real country. (Kinda)

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Yes I agree those beliefs should be destroyed. But that doesn’t mean the people with those beliefs should be. People who have committed evil actions, yes. Evil beliefs can be rehabilitated

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Argentina is another good example of imported Nazis

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Anonymous #6 18h

No? What about when those people with those beliefs commit atoexities over and over and then are given asylum and come to you country and spread those same diseased ideologies. Nazism is a disease and must be destroyed. If that means prohibiting its followers from participating in society then so be it. Nazism/white supremacy/fascism etc. can not be tolerated even as a belief system bc it is a cancer. It will fester and grow. Look at the USA now. We imported Nazis in the late 40s /early 50s

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Anonymous #6 18h

Now those beliefs have taken over our country. I will not tolerate Nazis. Holding those beliefs is just as dangerous as carrying them out. This is not even close to trumps attacks on transgender advocates for holding pro trans beliefs either. Nazis want to destroy. Progressives and the left as a general whole sim to create.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

I’m not arguing against the eradication of the ideology. I’m arguing against the eradication of humans. Force them with mk ultra if it makes you feel better

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Anonymous #6 18h

that is so much worse then just executing them wtf. 🫠🤨

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

People are not their beliefs. People can change. Not everyone sure, but we ought to try first

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Well then I think we fundamentally disagree on the value of human life then. And I’m pro choice lol

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Anonymous #6 18h

My guy I’m not saying we should go execute the cranky old lady down the street who is kinda racist I’m talking about the dudes that join paramilitary groups with wet dreams about gunning down and torturing minorities. Some people can not be reasoned with. Sure you wanna try to change their mind fine but that should not be allowed to participate in society. They are a larger danger than serial killers. They are a systemic rot.

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Anonymous #6 18h

I vehemently disagreed with you until you suggested torturing Nazis and now I kinda see what you mean

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Well then yeah, people who have voluntarily committed evil that makes sense, but even then I’d rather have them in our prison system doing that labor than weed dealers

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Anonymous #10 18h

Like torture sure, but they should live. They have labor value!!

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Anonymous #6 18h

There is no value in a Nazis life. If you chose to be a Nazi. If you March through Charlottesville chanting blood and soil, call for the death of women/jews/blacks/gays/etc I will not tolerate you. If you want to then all the power to you but I will not tolerate Nazis. I fully believe the ideology is a cancer and destroys those it infects. How do you come back from calling for the mas murder of children? How do you come back from planning it? How do you come back from doing it? Can you?

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Anonymous #10 18h

Id love to know what you disagree with me on tho if you’re willing to have that convo

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Anonymous #6 18h

Sure you can try to change their minds from prison, because that is where they belong. Treat it like a cult of you want and send them to deprogramming centers, send them to a psych ward, but they should not be allowed freedom in the world.

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Anonymous #6 18h

Okay tjat is a good point. I’ll agree on that. Hard labor for ideological nazis is smth I can get behind. I will stand on my point that someone who commits an act to forward those beliefs should be put down, and trust me I do value human life but Nazis are a different breed I find myself lacking any compassion or hope for them to be re-educated.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

I think we should allow for proven rehabilitation and with parole and the like, same as any other crime. Scaled to the level of their involvement and belief. Like if some 18 year old joined the proud boys after growing up to neo Nazis in rural Idaho where that’s all they know, I think they’d be deserving of a second chance considering they grew up in that world, never having the chance of knowing better.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Like have you ever heard of the guy who made friends with the grand wizard of the kkk, got to become a close confidant before revealing he was black, getting the grand wizard to leave the KKK?

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Anonymous #6 18h

I think I do generally agree with you statement and I’ve just been really pissed off today. Generally I am a forgiving person but it is so revolting and illogical to myself to see someone that is a different color or ethnicity or religion and think they are evil because of that. People see evil because of their beliefs (and actions) not those unchangeable factors. I ageee youth who joined a far right militia should not be punished in the same way as say the grand wizard of the kkk should be.

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Anonymous #6 18h

I have heard of that story and I think it’s great however that doesn’t change all the harm he’s done and should face consequences for. There needs to be consequences for these men (and women) like the KKK leadership, proud boy’s, Jan6ers, the Neo Nazis that marched in Charlottesville, etc. rehabilitation is great but this is not the same as some petty crime or drug use. This needs punishment.

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Anonymous stoner22 18h

Consequences sure. I just think death is too far unless like we said the actions or level of indoctrination is too much

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