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maybe i’m just high but is there like an objective argument against incest besides its fukin gross? like in 100 years are there gonna be movements saying consenting adults should be allowed to do that
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Anonymous 12w

There is. Birth defects and diseases. Look what happened to the Hapsburgs

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Anonymous 12w

I believe Germany actually had a court ruling arguing it should be legalized along those lines

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Anonymous 12w

The accumulation of deleterious or other harmful alleles which can lead to birth defects and heritable diseases

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Anonymous 12w

it’s an interesting line of thought. I was thinking about this myself a while back and was like, “huh, you really cannot cover all cases here”. even if you want to just worry about inbreeding you end up running into some uncomfortable eugenics arguments.

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Anonymous 12w

Most obvious liberal

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

and if they plan to never have kids then what

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

There’s kind of two main arguments. The first is that inbreeding is bad so there’s a risk of creating a child with significant disability. But if you apply this same logic to say two unrelated people with a recessive genetic disease, there’s some concerning implications.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

The other is that usually a relationship if this sort would be abusive in some way or another. There would usually be some form of power imbalance that would make that sort of thing unethical at least in the majority of cases. Logically this should also be applied to step relatedness or adoptive relationships too.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

But even those two arguments don’t cover all possible examples so I don’t really know of a blanket objective argument that would apply for all cases

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

that’s what i was afraid of

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

There’s still risk of it regardless. Accidents happen, and more often than not it is a situation of grooming anyway. Plus again, ew? Additionally it simply isn’t natural, the natural instinct is to diversify the gene pool, not regenerate from the same group

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 12w

but then like why don’t we make it illegal for anybody with potentially dangerous genes to procreate or people with hiv and stuff

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 12w

“It isn’t natural” isn’t a particularly good argument if we think about where else that is used. I think the abuse argument is better because that applies in many if not most cases but it’s still not ironclad.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

I consume a lot of philosophy and this is one of those common situations where once you actually start philosophizing about something enough you get some really uncomfortable realizations.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

yea thats where this started from bc someone was sayin all the arguments against gay people are the same arguments against incest which is why i’m reaching for smth objective like brazy rn

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

the conclusion i’m looking at so far is maybe it’s subjective but idc it’s gross and maybe in 100 years there will be a movement to say it’s bigoted to think that but idrc and hope i never live to see it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Yeah I’ve kind of settled into it being gross and I’m fine with it continuing to be a social taboo but I really haven’t been able to think of an argument against like two gay cousins or something :/

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

At least you’re high going through this. I had this realization while sober

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

no the highness makes it worse otherwise i wouldn’t be thinking this hard

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Oh god I think too much already now I’m scared what weed might do to me

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