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If you don’t like Charlie Kirk, please share your reason why. I want to understand. I will be open minded.
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Anonymous 1w

idk his face is just very unfortunate and unsettling to look at

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Anonymous 1w

i have no respect for anyone who is okay w a 10 year old carrying their rapists baby

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Anonymous 1w

Fuck him

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Anonymous 1w

He believed that the great replacement theory was a reality it’s even a whole page on his website it’s literally a Nazi talking point

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Anonymous 1w

He promoted racism, sexism, xenophobia, and homophobia. He advocated for Christian nationalism

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Anonymous 1w

He looks gay

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Haven’t heard of it, tell me more. What is the great replacement theory?

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 1w

Please tell me why. Don’t just spew hate.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

It’s the theory that officials in government want mass migration + the mixing of races until “pure” white people are gone

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

You can pick any race Hitler picked the Jews Kirk picked brown immigrants and African Americans

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

It’s my understanding he has plenty of good relationships with different races. Where do I go to see this side of him?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Go to his website look search of Charlie Kirk website great replacement theory

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I cannot find this article?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Bucket does not care I have no time there has been a lynching that seems to be ignored while we talk about a waste of fresh fucking air

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

He believes it’s a humans life, can’t you respect the idea that one wrong doesn’t justify another wrong? In this case the killing of an unborn child.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I have a friend who was born from a similar situation even, should they have aborted?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Here is from the guardian with direct quotes from Kirk himself

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 1w

Don’t comment if you aren’t open to debate. You need to realize there is a LOT of people who looked up to this man. So no matter which way you swing you should take it seriously.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

no i cant respect 10 year olds being forced to give birth

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Under immigration you can see he says to “replace white rural America”

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Yeah I found this, read this, I do not see anything wrong with it though.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Just like everyone else Kirk has no right to tell a women what to do it’s between her and her doctor it’s their decision which means ultimately it’s the woman’s decision bc we have the right to refuse medical treatment I won’t ever be mad someone didn’t get an abortion but a 10 year old can’t even consent to sex

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Do you think white America is gonna disappear? Bc I’m sorry to tell you buddy but right when we were all connected through international diplomacy eventually everyone is gonna have a little bit of everything in em it aren’t a “replacement” it’s called people wanna fuck

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

We can’t ask women not to kill their children? This country is also at a huge decline in childbearing and many say we won’t recover from it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

so close! a ten year old is not a woman, that is a child!

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

The Brains being grown in labs to create bio computers have more of a personality than most zygotes when they get aborted I’m sorry but we can’t make laws around a “soul” or “conscience” that the couple cells may or may not have we don’t know enough it’s not even worth the debate bc it boils down to religion and personal beliefs which means there cannot be law about it

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

This is mostly talking about DEI hires, you can’t take this out of context to paint the man racist. Also, you not see what happened to the UK girl on the bus?? “I got that white girl..” I’m not saying that’s every black nor is Charlie Kirk. What’s the point?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I’m sorry if you’re against DEI your opinion either being purposely ignorant or a racist you choose

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Okkkkkkkay.. we can’t ask pregnant person not girl not women.. to not abort their kids? We can’t acknowledge the majority of this country thinks life is protected and valued at conception?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

And respond tell me you believe in the theory that Hitler touted come on say you believe in the great replacement

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I don’t care what color this country is.. lol

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Anonymous replying to -> dawn_whale68 1w

he most certainly does NOT take that back 😨

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You are being purposely ignorant and when people around me act like that there is no point in educating them you just want to fight people on your beliefs so you feel more strongly about them go to fucking 4chan to get jacked off by your Nazi buddies

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I still don’t understand what you on.. sorry. I believe in equality and I believe in freedom. I don’t support murder. I don’t support criminals. I don’t support diversity hires. I don’t support racism. Hope this helps <3

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Again “diversity hires” don’t exist- at least not on a statistical level they don’t yk that means it doesn’t happen enough to justify taking it down it does way more good than bad but yall just got racism Lite and don’t spit of POC so you think you’re fine you’re not

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

What am I being ignorant about? I came on to an open forum to try to understand the other side, you’ve now resulted to insults. Which only proves people like Charlie right about how the “left” acts. Also I never asked to be educated by you. ALSO what’s with the assumptions of character?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You know what makes people want to bear children? Bodily autonomy. No woman wants to get pregnant if her state won’t allow for an abortion even in dangerous cases. By banning abortion, you are creating the circumstances where woman say “nope I’m not risking that shit” Also not to mention that the working class is getting poorer, people have to work multiple jobs now, and other factors that discourage childbirth. Voting conservatives into office only will increase these factors

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

There is simply no reason why a 10 yo…or anyone…should be forced to go thru with a r*pe-caused pregnancy if they don’t want to

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Brother you have never met someone as left as me you aren’t here to have an open mind you are here to tell people they are wrong again crawl back to your discord kitty and let them tell you how big and strong you are

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I don’t even want to ask what a discord kitty is.. why do you say I’m just here to tell people they’re wrong? I’m asking for clarification and understanding of your point of view and you’re just insulting.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Other stuff such as universal childcare, universal prek education, paid maternity leave, and shorter work weeks would also help encourage childbearing. But nope. That’s all socialism and we can’t have that You can’t have your cake and eat it too

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

i truly hope you never have daughters like what an absolutely disgusting point of view

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

What a mean thing to say.. but yes I’ll have daughters. I have no desire to kill them off. Even if it happens against my will.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

If you are a man, no, you won’t be having any children - your woman partner will If you are a woman, that’s great to hear, but other women feel differently about pregnancy

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Well people like OP are fine with the consequences of child assault because they don’t actually care about children. Every policy position they advocate for hurts children instead of helping them. It’s no coincidence that conservatives are always the ones defending child marriage, removing funding for hotlines, and other policies that objectively harm children

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

What a crazy viewpoint. Telling me I don’t care about children after I share that I would rather they have a chance at life. What?? The hypocrisy.. God help us.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I would lay down my life for my children.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Ok, what’s the leading cause of death for children in the USA?

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

There’s an objectively correct answer for this question, don’t do any funny stuff

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

I’m guessing here but Abortions.. then guns I suspect.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

WRONG ABORTIONS ARENT CALCULATED BECAUSE THEY ARE A FETUS A ZYGOTE NOT A CHILD

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

That is your opinion anyways, and I believe I’m done trying to debate with you.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Firearms. Easily the biggest cause of death for children in the country. Kirk said that was an unfortunate price to pay for the second amendment. And if you cared about the lives of children, you would be advocating for gun reform instead of banning abortion, which objectively hurts more children (specifically those who are victim of rape). But you don’t. If you cared about children you’d be fighting against their number one cause of death

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

It’s definitely secondary cause according to the numbers I googled to abortion by a significantly large margin. But yes I do feel our gun laws should be reformed. Banned completely however, absolutely not. Please don’t make assumptions on my views. We may agree more than you think here.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

Fuck it. We should’ve shot him twice then.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Charlie Kirk didn’t, hence why I hate him Also, because people like Charlie Kirk didn’t believe in exceptions for abortions, he still didn’t give af about kids. If you believe it’s fine for a ten year old to carry a rapists baby, then you are responsible for when that child dies

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

I am aware people have different views. It’s why I’m here. Is the root of what we disagree on whether it’s human life or not? Bc surely you don’t support murder.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

I don’t value one life over the other, if it is absolutely necessary to have a medically induced abortion to save a life good. This is not a large percentage of abortions.. I also would like this decision to be between the one pregnant and her family. Not the doctor.. not the government. Not you.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

In the case of abortion, I support women doing whatever they, their doctor, and their family decide. It’s not my business, and no women should have to go through with a pregnancy if they don’f want to, regardless of what i think about their decision (and especially if it was r*pe-caused)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

That’s great! Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Kirk would’ve agreed w/you though

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

To be honest, I think when a fetus becomes a child is a matter of personal belief that the government shouldn’t have a hand in If you want to believe life begins at conception, that’s whatever. But that belief (almost always based on religion, let’s not kid ourselves here) should be separate from government, because we have a separation of religion and state. And due to that, I don’t believe abortion should be banned, because it would be crossing that line

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Yes or no, we’re taking about human life? If yes, can’t you see why it’s morally wrong. If no, I can’t really disagree with you. But would like to debate when life begins.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I consider abortion morally wrong but recognize why women need it, and do think they ought to have that choice…even if I disapprove

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Remember REED

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

My only political position is that again, women deserve the right to consult doctor/family/etc. It’s not my business, especially as a guy

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

So you’re contradicting yourself here, you say the government shouldn’t have a say but then you claim I or others feel this way because of religion which should be kept out of government. Which is it? No religious beliefs in government or no government on this matter? I also believe if people have a religion they should live by it. Even if it means voting on policies or politicians for religious reasons.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Then we don’t disagree I guess?? You should probably have your own thoughts.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

If you feel a certain way b/c of your religion, that’s great - the govt shouldn’t be mandating any religious way of life on others. Separation of church and state

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Interesting, so I’m curious how you can support something that goes against your morality.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 1w

No, who’s reed?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I don’t *support* abortion, I support women having the right to choose for themselves, not the govt. it’s just not my business either way

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You can’t separate your moral values from your religious ones? Crazy

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

I can tell you like to say separation of church and state a lot. Lol what I’m saying however does not go against this. Would you like to be reminded of what that really means?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

What are you saying, then? If the govt makes a law based on a certain religion then that goes against church/state separation

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Could’ve worded it better. I should’ve said the government shouldn’t define when a fetus becomes a person based on any spiritual belief. We have a separation of church and state Like explain to me when a fetus becomes a person without using any spiritual justification. You kinda can’t really, because there isn’t any scientific basis to when personhood is assigned (Ps, politicians voting based on religious justification is a violation of church and state. You’re a representative ffs)

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

And as I’ve said before, govt shouldn’t be making laws based on any religion…and there are many religions in this country

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Bucket 🪣

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

My whole point which was ignored btw

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 1w

Hiii!! :) remember Trey reed

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

The key is that the government itself must remain neutral, even if individual citizens and politicians are not.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

But individual politicians are making government decisions…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

People are free to believe what they want. People are encouraged to vote on what they believe right.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Yeah that’s kinda how it works. Lol

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Big brain moments

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I mean sure, they’re free to, no one’s stopping them, but ideally laws wouldn’t be based on a religion that not everyone follows

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Regardless, I’d totally be anti DEI and anti LGBTQ as well as against abortion. Religion aside. I think DEI is more harmful than helpful. I think LGBTQ is a mental illness.. though I suppose since I’m putting my religion aside I could get behind same sex attraction just not the whole identity as something you aren’t. And then scientifically I think abortion is murder and I’m against that obviously.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Buddy, politicians ARE the government what do you mean 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Name a law that’s religion based in this country.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Science doesn’t support any of those claims literally any of them homosexual tendencies can be observed in every animal species but go off ig like I said your not hear to listen to

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

your words twin

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

No…. Absolutely not. The people are. The politicians just run it. This is why the 2nd amendment is important.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Scientifically abortion isn’t murder because there is no scientific backing for the concept that a fetus is a human being. Murder is the act of taking the life of another human being. Your beliefs have nothing to do with science, stop acting as such

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Is it really hard to just let lgbtq people live their lives. It’s not affecting you, or anyone else who someone loves or identifies as If a man decides to transition as a woman, I’ll call her her. Costs me nothing and hurts no one

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

dude every single person commenting here is trying to educate you but you’ve literally got your fingers in your ears. don’t say you want a “conversation” if you’re not gonna listen

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Right now, none that I can think of, which is good!

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I only mentioned science to the abortion part bud.. but first I’ve heard of a homosexual animals😂 when did this start being considered a thing. Truly will do anything to try to make it seem ok. Also I don’t like being identified as an animal. There is more to humans than that. But that is religion talking I suppose.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

Why do you say the word “educated” like so many others as if I’m dumb or stupid? I’m listening and sharing my thoughts. Sorry you don’t like it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Scientifically speaking we are mammals a type of animal I won’t bring MY religious beliefs into it unlike you and yeah it’s been a thing for actual decades you probably don’t keep up with things like thT

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

For someone who claims to like science, you sure don’t base anything off of that. We are animals, that’s just a fact of the matter. Your uncomfortableness with that label does not make that any less true

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Ok now you’re just repeating my own words😂😂😂

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Uncomfortable with what label? Also when did I say I liked science? I’m lost on this one…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I don’t get how but your reading comprehension is low so I’ll give you a break this time

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

BRO DOESNT LIKE SCIENCE

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Gee thanks… I’m honored. This is proving very anti helpful. I guess Charlie was right.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You just said you don’t like being identified as an animal, even though factually that is what humans are. Highly evolved, yes, but we objectively are just another species of animal

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Very very impressed he was able to debate people like yall…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

“Well I pretended to hear a be open to change but I also don’t believe in the scientific method ig Kirk was right” craziest shit I’ve ever read

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

No I said I don’t believe we are just another animal… but this is based on my religion. I believe we were created in Gods image. I believe we have a soul unlike many other species.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Well he did have to stitch together his videos to look better than he actually did in his debates. Something you clearly bought hook, line, and sinker

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I don’t believe in what scientific method now?? I’m saying Kirk is right about the insults the contradictions the hypocrisy the lack of a fucking brain.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Nope.. factual not a single video was altered.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

It doesn’t matter what you believe, that is not the facts of the matter. You are just objectively wrong. I will defend your right to believe that, but I will not have government policy decided through a Christian lens because that is anti American

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I bet 20$ my SAT score was higher than you or did you get an invite to Harvard?

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

I’ll take your money I suppose

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Do you have evidence that those videos weren’t altered or do you just believe they weren’t lmaooooo

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Right back at ya buddy, any evidence they were?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Ah really than what’s your score?

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Heck i’m a Christian and I don’t want govt policy decided thru my religion’s lens 😭😭 we’re a nation not just of a Christians, but of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, and more

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

YEAH BECAUSE THATS HOW AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE LMAO I’m no longer religious, but I was raised catholic and even then the claims that “the us is a Christian nation” were ludicrous to me because i actually read history

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

Higher than yours.. already said I’d take the money.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You literally don’t know that 😭 unless you got a perfect fucking score yours is not higher than mine buddy not that I even measure intelligence using that I just want to fuck w you

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Read history but not the fucking dollar bill that says “IN GOD WE TRUST” also never sang the pledge of allegiance.. or read the history book that mentioned the founders of the fucking declaration of independence to be God fearing men.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

exactly 😭😭 i was wayyy more pro-christian policy when i was younger (ex: pro-life, wanting others to join me in lunch prayer), but i wisened up!

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You can literally compare fan recordings from the crowd to the officially posted ones on TPUSA. They’ve been found multiple times to be doing this but ok. Not to mention continuity errors between shots clearly showing time had passed and other stuff

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

In god we trust was added somewhere around the 1950s not sure when but yeah

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Anonymous 1w

Bucket

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And you will die full of regrets when death comes for you she will not gently take you into her arms no she will drag you into the light and back to Mother where you will feel all the anguish of the world

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Anonymous replying to -> kill_serial_rapists 1w

uh oke whatever you say broski

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Dont play this game with me, I am in my final year of a history major and have extensively studied political speech “One nation under god” was added to the pledge and money in the FIFTIES because Eisenhower didn’t want no damn dirty atheist commies here The founders explicitly spoke against having religion in government. The fact you want to accuse me of not reading books when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about is laughable at best

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Funny.. because if you’re going to TPUSA directly you should be seeing the entire video. Only insta Facebook social media platforms etc are there shortened clips and vids and this isn’t uncommon for anyone to do. Doesn’t justify the assumption they’ve hidden the “evil” “disgusting” ones.. You should listen to his wife Ericka’s speech.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

In fact, it’s even more embarrassing for you to say that because it’s possible “in god we trust” and “one nation under god” weren’t a part of the money/pledge when your own grandparents were born. We also have video and audio all the way back to the early thirties of US presidents and politicians, and in them you won’t hear that as part of the pledge either. All easily accessible information you can gather. Even if it wasn’t for my major, you can google it Dont cite history if you don’t know it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Let’s look at the Jefferson Bible too. Done as a literary critique, Thomas Jefferson edited out all the parts of the Bible he thought were not based in fact. This includes the miracles Christ performed, his rising from the grave, and other supernatural events in the Bible

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

Holy fuck both of you… READ. Read what I post. Peachy here said the US isn’t a Christian nation. I believe it is.. yes I made a comment about some of the founding fathers being Christian. Which is true! But i was not intending to make the claim we were always a Christian nation.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

You said they were god fearing men and (laughably) accused me and others of not reading history books And even if you wanted us to take what you said as “it wasn’t a Christian nation but is now” that’s just admitting you don’t care about the USA. You’re fine with overturning one of the founding principles of the country

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

most people in the US do not consider life to begin at conception that’s really only a white evangelical ideal

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

He wasn’t pro life. He was pro forced birth

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Anonymous replying to -> stoner22 1w

I don’t see a difference

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 1w

You claimed to have read all these history books but our blind to the facts that this world is full of suffering Christian’s who are constantly being told their opinions are shit. That are being murdered. That this world this county cares nothing for them. This is not what the founding fathers wanted.. and if it is then yeah fuck them.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Suffering there is no suffering all there is a bunch of “Christians” and “converts” who say they stand in the name of the lord but openly mock him without even saying they are mocking him by showing their bigotry! Their Greed! And their selfishness it is a mockery to Jesus!

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Forcing a 10 year old to become a mother after she was violently raped and she would have to “give birth” via c-section bc she is not physically capable of giving birth bc shes 10 years old. That’s not pro life. That’s pro birth. And that’s a disregard of self ownership and bodily autonomy.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Just gonna go out on a limb and say being persecuted is a core principle of Christianity and once it became no longer persecuted Christianity became more oppressive. We are seeing a rise in evangelicalism and Christian nationalism in the United States. We need Christianity being weaponized against minorities of all types yet Christian’s still claim persecution. It may happen around the world but it does not happen in America. You are made fun of, sure, but that is not persecution.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 1w

They can quote the Bible all they want they are wolves in sheep’s clothing a reincarnation of the slavery loving fucks that John brown send 6 feet under!

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

If you looked up to Kirk then you need to reevaluate your life choices and morals. He parroted evil and vile beliefs under the guise of free debate. He advocated for tyranny- if he got his way free speech and debate would no longer exist.

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Anonymous replying to -> stoner22 1w

The only Christians I see being persecuted are the middle eastern Christians who are scapegoated for the sins of the west!

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Anonymous replying to -> stoner22 1w

Hell debates college students which should say a lot about him because let’s be honest he’s afraid to go toe to toe with professionals we still haven’t forgotten his crash out with Hasan!

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 1w

Debating means nothing when the ideology he’s advocating for would eliminate free speech

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Anonymous replying to -> stoner22 1w

True!

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