Anonymous #1 4w

I would much rather be scared by the idea of a cop having a rifle in his car than the idea that the entire police force might have to bumrush a gun store and commandeer their weapons just to engage 2 bank robbers.

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Anonymous #1 4w

OP is talking about tanks and shit. Leftovers from our wars in the Middle East.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Cops don't have tanks, they have armored personnel carriers (again, the need for these was shown in the Norinco shootout)

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Anonymous #1 4w

Yeah dude look at this armored personnel carrier, it’s like so different than a tank dude

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Anonymous #3 4w

Yeah, it genuinely doesn't even look similar to the tanks being used in warfare nowadays and notably does not have a cannon

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Anonymous #1 4w

man its so nice to know that this hollywood robbery justifies the nypd scaring the ever loving fuck out of me when they turn the corner carrying a gun thats 60% of the size of both our bodies so they only ever use it to point it at innocent people, sometimes innocent protestors

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Anonymous #4 4w

Their right to defend themselves and their duty to enforce the law isn't suddenly less important than you feeling scared, sorry.

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Anonymous #4 4w

I would consider looking into mental health services if just seeing a rifle actually causes bad anxiety

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Anonymous #1 4w

1) theyre never defending themselves, and if they had to they wouldnt need a gun even an eigth of that size 2) they are doing no law enforcement, especially not with that 3) sorry ive been at a shooting and we live in a country where shootings are extremely common because everyone needs to vaporize my body in 10 seconds with their self protection toy 4) not sure what reason i have to have any faith in law enforcement to be remotely reasonable or responsible

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Anonymous #1 4w

I keep hearing about certain people who insist upon a right to defend themselves. Coincidentally, they (IDF/israel) also train many American police officers. NYPD has a field office in occupied Palestine, to #4’s point.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Rifles aren’t intimidating? I think you’d piss your pants if you saw these guys exercising their 2A rights.

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Anonymous #4 4w

1) person who doesn't know shit about guns telling me what gun is the most effective- lol 2) then why did you call them that? 3) the problem in Norinco wasn't that the robbers had guns, it was that they had homemade body armor that could tank the 9mm rounds and shotgun pellets being fired at them 4) if you already don't think they are responsible and act unlawfully, why not do something about that instead?

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Anonymous #1 4w

“Why don’t you, random yakker, do something about the police acting unlawfully” — #1 Beyond parody

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Historically, actually taking issue with them acting unlawfully is going to get you a whole lot further than just trying to disarm your police department because they did something wrong

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Anonymous #1 4w

Oh good, so you’re ready with some historical examples to share?

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Miranda warnings, mandatory deescalation training, body cams, duty to intervene, chokehold/carotid artery restraint bans, independent prosecutors for police involved shootings, mandatory reporting for use of force incidents, whistleblower protections for officers, national decertification databases, and many more.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Notice how none of these impeded on the police's ability to defend themselves or enforce the law, yet have real benefits to policing for both the police departments and the suspects.

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Anonymous #1 4w

1) doesnt know shit about guns telling you whats most effective? its like carrying around a 50 pound sword versus one thats 2 pounds. 50 pound sword isnt gonna defend you thats obliterating someone. shut your fuck up man 2) theyre police. they sit around and do nothing. thats not law enforcement, its intimidation except nobody that needs to be intimidated is 3) man i cant believe hollywood shooting with body armor thats never happened in new york requires police to scare the shit out of everyone

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Anonymous #1 4w

4) why not do something about the out of control civilian shooters who will turn and shred me like a cheese grater? youre a mighty intellect

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Anonymous #4 4w

you want to talk about the hollywood shooting? nobody needs to carry these insane weapons around. do you see firefighters carrying around the big hoses to blow people away with? no? they go and grab that when the scenario calls for it? what a novel idea!

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Anonymous #1 4w

Crazy that with all that tech they still killed over 3 people on average daily in 2024. Also, again, no duty for cops to protect you.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

First decent idea I have heard in this conversation and I had to scrounge it from the depths of your ideals myself: maybe we should legally require police to protect civilians where they are able to

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Anonymous #4 4w

1) The differences between a glock 17 (average duty pistol) and an ar15 (average duty rifle) is that an ar15 can hold an extra 13 rounds and the smaller ar15 bullet has more velocity allowing it to penetrate certain body armor, its not gonna obliterate you lol 2) police means LE 3) still happened in the US and the reason you see that carry over is because US police share policies across departments 4) here's a novel idea: what if police both had the means to protect civilians and didn't oppress

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Anonymous #1 4w

White people be like “what if the cops were just nicer?”

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Black people be like this one guy shot another guy wearing a uniform so now we must rid ourselves of the institution of justice

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Anonymous #1 4w

1) man they sure are using those extra rounds and that extra velocity! not like those bullets are any different or anything either, the fire rate isnt faster, nothing! 2) wow genius over here figured out the big question. its almost like i specifically addressed what you just said but youre too illiterate to have picked up on it! 3) the louvre robbery just happened, should all of france now equip deadly and extreme measures to prevent a street baker from having the same thing? 4) what if. yes!

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Anonymous #1 4w

wow jumped to racism real fast that was predictable

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Anonymous #1 4w

I would like nothing more than to be rid of this “institution of justice”

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Anonymous #1 4w

"what if police didnt oppress" what if we all smiled and kissed and gave each other lollipops! what if my grandmother had wheels? shed be a bike! what if... what if... what if...

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Anonymous #4 4w

1) Fire rate is slower on an AR15 than a glock, and as I said the bullet itself is smaller 2) don't say stuff if you mean something else 3) don't remember the part in the response to the Louvre robbery where the robbers killed 20 people and the police had to bumrush a gun store to break through their body armor 4) atleast there's some agreement here

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

You say that as if the horrors the US would experience without a judicial or policing system would be any better than with one

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Anonymous #1 4w

Yeah that’s what I meant, complete anarchy, not anything focused on rehabilitation or addressing the root cause of crime, poverty. Legalize murder and people will get bored eventually, and they’ll stop murdering. Demand will go down. That’s basic economics. /s

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

That is what you are saying when you say you want to get rid of the entire institution of justice

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Anonymous #1 4w

98% of people in prison are there on a plea deal, meaning without a trial so I gotta tell you I’m not convinced it’s actually doing good. And they’re being used for enslaved labor in a multi billion dollar industry. And also, many of these private prisons have mandatory minimum capacities—which means there is no incentive to lower crime. “Don’t commit crimes” I hear you say. If criminals don’t have rights, what happens if the govt decides you’re a criminal?

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

Dude you have the worst fucking takes dude, your parents were definitely rich and you grew up hella insulated

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Anonymous #5 4w

Someone sounds jellllyyyyy :P What cold hard truths about life did I miss out on while my dad and I were golfing at Augusta? /nsrs /s

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

I paid cash for a house at age 20 you stupid fuck, I’m way richer than you

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Anonymous #5 4w

That’s what I’d say if I needed to win a financial dick measuring contest online, too

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Anonymous #5 4w

i dont really give a shit about whatever youre yapping about but pray tell how you at 20 paid for a house with cash, and what did you need the house for? an investment?

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Anonymous #5 4w

So are you gonna counter-argue at all or just flex this allegedly awesome house

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Anonymous boariskarloff 4w

also like... they come out swinging saying "oh youre rich youre insulated and out of touch" then to say theyre buying a house with cash (anomaly) at age 20 (like 15-20 yrs sooner than the median first time homebuyer) because you very very very clearly sarcastically said youre rich and golf

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Anonymous #4 4w

You guys don't golf?

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Anonymous #1 4w

not much in the way of golf courses is there

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Anonymous #4 4w

Rip that sucks nigga you guys must have hella trouble being ferda

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Anonymous #1 4w

you are a masterfully intolerable individual

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Anonymous #4 4w

Get yo tolerance up then fn

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Anonymous #4 4w

He’s a master baiter, even

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Anonymous #1 4w

i have tolerance. you just are a unique variety of specimen that i am familiar with and despise very thoroughly

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Anonymous #4 4w

you wouldn't say that ab me if you saw me in person yung blud

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Anonymous #1 4w

strictly on your speech, vocabulary, positions, and conversation, i can say i absolutely would still be saying that even if you just appeared in front of me

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Anonymous #4 4w

This is why code switching is so important

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Anonymous #1 4w

"yung blud" paired with "ferda" coming from you doesnt paint the picture of you that you think it might

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Anonymous #4 4w

It doesn't paint frat boy wannabe AAVE? That's what I was going for

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Anonymous #4 4w

Takes one to know one except I actually had to work hard outside of being born rich

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