Anonymous #1 2d

silence chud

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Anonymous #1 2d

Dude its not even that far of a leap

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

eating two steaks to make up for the steak you don't eat wokie

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Anonymous #2 2d

Guess I’ll just take 2 showers and we’ll call it even

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

i'll take four

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Anonymous #2 2d

Dang gotem. Would you eat a dog?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if it was prepared well, sure. i'll try most anything at least once.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Would you be cool eating it every day? Like factory farmed dog meat?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if it was prepared well sure. i'll try anything at least once.

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Anonymous #2 2d

So that’s a no then? Why wouldn’t you eat dog regularly? I assume you eat beef regularly

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

i like beef. i don't know if i like dog yet.

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Anonymous #2 2d

Let’s say it’s really tasty then, much better than beef or chicken or whatever. Would you have any issues with factory farming dogs? Keeping them in cages for life, no sunlight or room to play…etc?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if it was an important part of my diet, i would advocate for better conditions without cutting it out. at the end of the day it dies either way.

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Anonymous #2 2d

So rather than get your protein and whatnot from other sources you would buy factory farmed dog meat? Because, despite the lifetime of suffering endured by the animals (that you are supporting), they would eventually die anyway? So the suffering before then is moot?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if they contained nutrients i needed that i could not get elsewhere without dropping a fat stack of cash absolutely. i do not care. not enough to change my diet. unless you bought my groceries, then you could dictate what i ate all you like.

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Anonymous #2 2d

You think being vegetarian is prohibitively expensive or otherwise unhealthy? What makes you say that?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

yes, it is if you want to be healthy too. you have to supplement whatever you're not getting from your diet.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

plus i like the way meat tastes, my favorite is deer meat 🤤

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Anonymous #2 2d

I’d strongly disagree, you can get all the protein and minerals you need from foods that are no more than expensive than a meat eaters diet. In fact it’s often cheaper. Beans are cheap asf and give you plenty of protein, dark leafy greens have plenty of iron. Even if you don’t wanna buy leafy greens a big ass bottle of iron supplements or b12 supplements is like $10 bucks if that and it’ll last you months.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

And people always wanna talk about how unhealthy it is to be vegetarian, yk how unhealthy it is to consume too much meat? Especially red meat? It has plenty of its own risks. Unless you’re an Olympian ur not gonna see health downsides to being vegetarian as long as you spend 10 minutes researching what you need to make up for.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

I love the way meat tastes, Italian sausage is my favorite. But ultimately it’s hard to support a system whose inner workings you can’t even bring yourself to look at because they’re too cruel and repulsive. That cognitive dissonance is telling you something.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

If you want to eat meat so badly why not just eat deer meat? Most places have too many deer anyway and those animals get to live a natural life.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

it dies if i don't eat it it dies if i do

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

because i cannot hunt enough deer to last me a year and outside of deer season i can't hunt them at all. i do fw some wild rabbit tho, and squirrel. ground beef is cheap, and there's plenty of good fast and reliable meals to make with it. the animal dies in the industry either way

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Anonymous #2 2d

The animal dies because there is demand for animals to be kept and killed in this way. You drive that demand, your choices do have impacts.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

Also you’re an animal like the rest of us, you’ve experienced suffering and pleasure. Are you really trying to tell me that the amount of one or the other is trivial because eventually we’ll die?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

it does not. and at the end of the day, i don't care enough to change my diet to satisfy you.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

Perfectly workable to simply not eat meat when there isn’t deer, that’s how many cultures operated/operate

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

ive suffered, and felt a lot of pleasure, but in the end no it doesn't matter. i'm not being raised for meat tho, am i?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

not my culture

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Anonymous #2 2d

This just doesn’t seem like an honest argument. If the suffering or pleasure didnt matter then you wouldn’t have a preference between torture or a delicious meal. You wouldn’t care if your family were treated to one or the other. Obviously it matters. The only question is how much weight you’re willing to put behind the suffering of other intelligent social animals. Or other humans for that matter

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

It’s not about satisfying me, I don’t know you and probably will never meet you past this conversation. It’s about acting in a way that is consistent with your own beliefs

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

oh well 🤷 i'm eating meat no matter what. better conditions for the animal would be nice, but i'm not in control of that. at the end of the day, that animal would be raised and slaughtered all the same. the only difference i'd make is who ate it.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if eating meat makes me not a leftist, oh well. don't really care that much.

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Anonymous #2 2d

That’s straight up denial of reality. Btw I’m not claiming to be entirely holier than thou, there are bad things I support that you maybe don’t and vice versa. But let’s be honest, you support this system. We can tell because you continue to financially support the people doing these things. You have control over a part of this and could make a different choice, you’ve decided not to.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

"if you go to the doctor, you support the predatory and disgusting behavior prevalent in the U.S healthcare system" idrc that much. a guys gotta eat, i can't live on pussy queen

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

maybe instead of harassing consumers you could...do something productive like hold the coorporations accountable for what ur mad at instead of shifting the blame onto random people who are literally just eating. i don't know what else to tell you

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Anonymous #2 2d

If you don’t go to the doctor you could get seriously sick or die. If you don’t eat meat you don’t get the specific taste profile you prefer. It is very obvious that these are not similar situations

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if i don't get the nutrients my doctor has told me i need i get sick. i simply don't have the money to completely change my diet to a vegan one and stay healthy. im glad you do though.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

youre so billie eilish core i love that for you

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Anonymous #2 2d

Oh the corporations are massively problematic and hold more blame than you or I, absolutely. However I’d be some sort of hypocrite if I only wrote to my congressman that I disapprove of the situation in gaza but still bought goods from Israeli companies that support the genocide. While small, your decisions of where to spend your money say something about what you support. You can and should take both types of action

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

if you buy my groceries you can have a say. when do i get my check?

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Anonymous #2 2d

I’m talking about being vegetarian, not vegan. The latter is somewhat hard to do cheaply and healthy, the former isn’t at all. I can say with nearly complete certainty that I eat cheaper than you do. I’m a grad student on researcher salary, I don’t get paid shit. It’s a question of effort not affordability

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

oh well 🤷 i'm not changing my diet so that yikyak user fuuuckyikyak is happy with it. i've got other things to worry about

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

And again, lots of things to put effort into, reducing animal cruelty isn’t the battle some people pick and that’s fine. Doesn’t make me a better person than you. I’m just asking you to be honest about the trade off. It’s not health, it’s not affordability. It’s because you don’t find it worth it to put your money where your mouth is for this particular issue

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

it's a secret fourth option..called all of the above.

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Anonymous #2 2d

That’s just dishonest. Feel free to do your own research, you won’t find much supporting the idea that being vegitarian is more expensive or less healthy than eating meat in any sort of significant way so long as you’ve taken the most minimal amount of effort to balance what you eat.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

too busy. im not taking diet advice from someone who can't even spell vegetarian. thx thi

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Anonymous #2 2d

Lmao that is funny, idk how long I’ve been spelling it that way but what a way to discover it

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

You’re not tho, you have more than enough time and ability to change if you ever feel like it’s worth the effort.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 2d

Also you don’t need to take my word for it, plenty of quality research that’ll make this point more eloquently than I have. And they’ll have spelled vegetarian correctly lol

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