Anonymous #1 20h

The first point is both morally and internationally incorrect. But keep trying. Both sides can be shitty at the same time.

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Anonymous #3 20h

Who made you the arbiter of morals? I’m an anti-Zionist Jew and I’ll say with my chest that every Israeli is complicit in their fascist and genocidal project. They are straight up Nazis and are morally identical to the fascists who exterminated my ancestors during the holocaust of bullets in Ukraine.

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Anonymous #1 20h

Few. Notes. One. I’m pretty anti Isreal on this one. But every. Implies every. So you’re in fact pro child murder on this one. By on your own words. Cool. We are both anti Zionist Jews. But you’re a kapo.

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Anonymous #3 20h

I think I made pretty clear that I was talking about adults over 18, meaning they served in the IDF. Hence why I challenged the claim that Hamas targeted children (obviously implying that would be wrong). Call me a kapo all you want, but you sound identical to a German decrying the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

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Anonymous #1 20h

lol they blocked me 💀🤣

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 20h

I’m kinda against all violence. Right now that’s Israel’s violence against Gaza, but I’m also against the violence of October 7th.

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Anonymous #4 19h

That’s like saying an opposition to violence requires you to condemn a child for striking their abusive father. I think most people are against all violence ideologically but I don’t think that conviction requires you to critique the child in my example or Palestinians in Gaza as if they are proponents of violence. They did one of the exceptionally few things they were able to do in response to extreme violence and oppression.

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 19h

I mean, it was still civilians

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 19h

The other option is to lie down and take it, to be killed or displaced. It’s just not in human nature to do that, it’s unnatural for any non human animal too. A cornered raccoon isn’t an inherently violent creature for attacking the person cornering it, the violence is the fault of the person who cornered the guy in the first place

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Anonymous #4 19h

For example, the United States does a lot of bad shit and violently oppresses a lot of people. I’m assuming you’re American, you probably don’t want to be murdered for that either.

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Anonymous #4 19h

It was some civilians. The Israelis made sure of that, yes. Through illegal occupation the Israelis made sure that Palestine could not have a workable military or weapons anywhere nearly capable of attacking a military superpower. They made sure that Palestinians did not have freedom of navigation to stage attacks elsewhere. Made sure that the Palestinian population were used to seeing their own civilians slaughtered every day. What else could be the result of such policies?

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Anonymous fuuuckyikyak 19h

I mean nothing alive wants to be murdered, myself included. But we live in the capital of an empire and our riches come from the suffering of others all around the world. Would I pass moral judgement on someone from the third world wishing or carrying out violence against the us? That is, simply retaliating in the smallest way with respect to our own crimes? Not really

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Anonymous #1 19h

? They took children as hostages, how is that not confirmed targeting of children

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Anonymous #5 15h

I made clear I was talking about targeting to be killed. There were children taken hostage in the chaos, and they were the first hostages to be exchanged and given back to their families. Some however were unfortunately killed in the bombings by Israel.

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Anonymous #1 15h

38 children under 18 killed, 42 taken hostage. Seem like targets to me

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Anonymous #5 15h

And Israel is responsible for every death. There has not been one confirmed example of a child killed by Hamas. Only unsupported Israeli Hasbara.

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Anonymous #1 14h

Human Rights Watch, Amnesty, the AP, and more seem to disagree

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Anonymous #5 14h

Wow, western human rights organizations and the media repeat Israeli Hasbara? I’m so so shocked 🤭

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Anonymous #1 14h

So we shouldn’t trust them either when they accuse Israel of genocide?

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Anonymous #5 13h

I wouldn’t appeal to them at all when discussing the overwhelming evidence of Israel’s genocide, even though they do in fact recognize it.

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Anonymous #1 13h

And why exactly would these sources decide to corroborate the worst possible accusation against Israel but then also peddle “hasbara” about crimes of its enemy that you would blame on Israel anyways even if you did accept it were true? That makes no sense

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Anonymous #5 13h

Because the genocide has reached a stage in which it is clearly undeniable. Make no mistake, they would absolutely continue to deny it if they could. They simply won’t backtrack on the Hasbara they aided in pushing shortly after October 7th.

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