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People wrongly contribute the increase in quality of life over the last 200 years to capitalism. In reality, it was caused by industrialism, which is not inherently capitalistic. However, capitalism enabled rapid industrialization in its infancy.
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Anonymous 4w

Industrialism might have been able to happen in a state without capitalism, but it would still require a hierarchical society with class mobility to make people systematically strive towards innovation.

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Anonymous 4w

The USSR did industrialism too, but it the millions who starved from forced famines probably werent saying their quality of life was much improved

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Lots of people died to get us where our industrial capitalist system is today. The slaves who died on the cotton plantations or those who died in the conquests that created Britain’s global trade network or the children who died in factories weren’t benefitted either. It’s terrible and largely preventable but the deaths in the USSR weren’t unique.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Media can be controlled, power can be consolidated, it is a gamble, one that has lost many people many lives.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Also, I know that research supports the idea that people could be productive with basic needs met, but I would personally min max my dopamine chasing habits into an early grave with massive amounts of regret.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

In the long term, quality of life did improve. But the USSR decided to put industrialization above the welfare of its people, and that’s how it ended up with 60M+ dead in famine

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