Anonymous #2 39w

What excuse is there for dehumanization?

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Anonymous #2 39w

this is the way Nazis talked ab Jews btw

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Anonymous #3 39w

It’s also the way republicans talk about “demoncrats”

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Anonymous #2 39w

We’re not defending that, we want no dehumanization on both sides

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Anonymous #2 39w

And apparently it’s the way democrats talks about republicans too, I can do it bc they do it is the most childish justification ever, if a couple republicans went out and killed democrats would it suddenly become okay for democrats to kill republicans?

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Anonymous OP 39w

Only violence can be used to defend against violence. That’s how every nation has persisted since the dawn of humanity.

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Anonymous #3 39w

Dude republicans do go out and kill democrats. Look up Daniel Perry, he texted his friend that he was gonna go kill some protestors, drove into a crowd and shot someone for disagreeing with him and then got pardoned.

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Anonymous #2 39w

So it’s okay in your eyes? That’s wild, you’re no better than them lol

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Anonymous #3 39w

Not just my eyes, their eyes, your eyes, the presidents eyes, and everyone who has ever lived in a country with a militaries eyes as well.

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Anonymous #1 39w

Apparently nobody understands that meeting “I think white people are superior” with “well why do you think that” isn’t an effective method of stopping white nationalism

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Anonymous #2 39w

killing soldiers is diff than killing people for no reason other than their political affiliation if a Republican attacks you, you should attack them back in self-defense, targeting republicans bc of something another Republican did is absurd

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Anonymous #2 39w

An eye for an eye doesn’t work, that leads to anarchy. If someone does something violent they should get arrested for it and serve time, extrajudicial killings is a terrible thing

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Anonymous #3 39w

It’s one thing if it’s some rando who spends the rest of his life in prison. The biggest republicans in the country have openly and repeatedly supported the idea of violence against their political opponents. Genuine question: at what point does it become something bigger? What line has to be crossed?

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Anonymous OP 39w

No, it’s led to civilization. Every country in existence follows the “eye for an eye” rule.

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Anonymous #2 39w

Violence is a last resort, nonviolent direct action like strikes and boycotts are both far more humane and far more effective It’s hard for moderates to empathize with a resistance that presents themselves as violent

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Anonymous #3 39w

Moderates empathize with a healthcare system that kills 40,000 Americans per year and a military which has killed millions of civilians in our rather short lifetimes. Moderates don’t hate violence, the media tells them to.

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Anonymous #2 39w

If you think moderates are too far gone then you’re likely too radical to establish any sort of movement to gain traction

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Anonymous #3 39w

That’s exactly the opposite of what I said lmao

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Anonymous #2 39w

No one likes the healthcare system except the rich execs. And when did we kill millions in our lifetime??

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Anonymous #2 39w

Research shows nonviolent direct action is the most effective way to protest from Arab Spring to the Civil Rights movement If the populace associates your movement with violence, you will never be successful or at least as successful than if it wasn’t

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Anonymous OP 39w

Iraq alone, not to even mention all the drone runs from both Obama and Trump

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Anonymous #2 39w

Iraq was hundreds of thousands and was widely disliked to the point of getting the first African American president into office

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That’s why I said violence as a last resort, there hasn’t been a single general strike or large scale boycott lasting longer than 2 weeks Saying it doesn’t work when we haven’t even tried it is defeatist and misses the point Also, violence, just like nonviolent direct action, is only meaningful and effective when deliberately planned and organized, no method works without organization, rogue resisters don’t make any meaningful change

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Anonymous #3 39w

Strikes can’t work because of how many Americans live paycheck to paycheck. A strike would kill more civilians than a war would.

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MLK won rights for all black people without throwing a single punch. All he did was speak, walk, and sit. And this is when black people would be beaten, sprayed with water hoses, or police dogs attack them

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Anonymous #2 39w

That’s why Americans need to organize mutual aid networks, basic facets of community organizing, tell people where to get food and where to get rent money for when they do strike, again organization is the key

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Anonymous OP 39w

No, MLK got shot and killed for it. The panthers won rights for all black people.

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Anonymous OP 39w

This is factually untrue, but the civil rights movement was both incredibly well-organized and well-disciplined

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I wonder who ultimately benefits from isolated acts of violence against the secret police, the secret police or its victims

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Anonymous OP 39w

Also here’s a political cartoon from the 60s, MLK was widely seen as violent by political opposition at the time

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no, but I also don’t think leaping to violence when the most that has been done are single-day protests is the right choice either

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Anonymous #1 39w

Worked with MLK

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Anonymous OP 39w

You have no clue about that actual history of the civil rights movement then

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Anonymous #3 39w

Not really. You’re essentially saying people who dehumanize hitler is equal to the nazis dehumanizing the Jews. That’s not true.

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Anonymous #6 39w

Hitler was in fact a human, I feel like dehumanizing defeats the purpose of realizing that human beings are capable of evil or violent acts Hitler was tragically human and that’s one of the most important parts to take away from history in the first place, human beings do awful things to each other, these aren’t incomprehensible reptilian monsters

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Anonymous #3 39w

And that’s fair. Humanity doesnt need monsters demons or gods to be evil they just are.

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Anonymous #6 39w

yeah, I dislike when people try to dismiss human beings who do catastrophic things as merely evil or immoral when it’s often way more complicated than that

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yes I agree with this, there is a diff between someone fighting to avoid being sent to the inhumane detention facility versus someone out there just looking to hurt ICE agents

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