Anonymous #2 2d

yet another thing they don’t like..

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Anonymous #3 2d

i haven’t had a covid vaccine since 2021 and i have had zero issues

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Anonymous OP 2d

that doesn’t take away from anything that I just said

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Anonymous #3 2d

But the vaccine mandate ended in 2023 while Biden was still president?

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Anonymous #1 2d

It was literally implemented under Biden?

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Anonymous #3 2d

Yeah because there was a public health emergency? People were dying and the virus was spreading very quickly so they implemented actions to curb that. Once it became safer and the virus was no longer a threat, those mandates were lifted

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Anonymous #1 2d

You act like new boosters haven’t still been coming out and that people aren’t still walking around in masks and asking if you’re covid vaccinated or not. it’s weird

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Anonymous #3 2d

why do you care so much about what other people are choosing to do? if someone wants to protect themselves and others from harmful diseases why do you want to stop that?

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Anonymous OP 2d

when mandates are implemented it’s not just “what people are choosing to do”, and people on the left are pro mandates

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Anonymous #3 2d

Have you been forced to put on a mask and get a booster?

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Anonymous #1 2d

Yes i did have to wear a mask and the consequences of not getting vaxxed were restrictions, my entire point is that people on the left are pro vaccine mandates

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Anonymous #3 2d

You *did* or you *do*?

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Anonymous #1 2d

“Have you been forced” yes !!!! Quit trying to act like the left isn’t pro vaccine mandates. Stay on topic

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Anonymous #3 2d

Can you point to any bills on vaccines or other mandates the left is currently pushing to back that up? If the left loves mandates so much why didn’t they continue it through 2024? My whole fucking point is that you’re not currently being mandated to wear a mask and get a vaccine so it’s really fucking silly for you to bitch and moan about it 😂

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Anonymous #1 2d

Because it finally came out that Covid is comparable to the flu 😂 but also there are still employers that require a covid vaccination to be considered for employment. Many red states put prohibitions on vaccine mandates, unlike blue states

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Anonymous #3 2d

Yes because vaccines protected people until newer strains of the virus were less deadly than the original, keep up “May be considered” is not saying “you must have a vaccine to get this job.” I’m willing to bet those jobs are in the health field where you’re more likely to be exposed to harmful diseases too but who am I to guess Ok? Many states ban all sorts of things that aren’t threats. Look at Florida, they just enacted a bill that bans fucking weather modification 💀

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Anonymous #3 2d

the flu kills people.

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Anonymous #1 2d

So they’re protecting people but also many cases of adverse effects, some of which were very serious heart conditions. gotcha. And no they are not in the health field. Some are for sure, others are just lunatic lefties. yes if employers are saying that in order to be considered for a job you have to be Covid vaccinated that is saying “you have to be vaccinated to get this job”

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Anonymous OP 2d

So would you support a flu vaccine mandate?

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Anonymous #3 2d

for people who work with high risk groups, yes

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Anonymous OP 2d

So that’s my point, the left is pro mandating vaccines

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Anonymous #3 2d

You still haven’t explained why the left ended the Covid mandate in 2023 instead of extending it through Biden’s term

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Anonymous #1 2d

They couldn’t, it finally came out that Covid is comparable to other diseases that vaccines aren’t mandated for, so it made no sense. Completely illogical. I did answer

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Anonymous #3 2d

You talk about the science behind vaccines being dangerous while also completely refusing to acknowledge the scientific proof that viruses have different strains that vary in how dangerous they are 💀

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Anonymous #1 2d

When did i ever refuse to acknowledge that there have been different strains lol, and you’re acting like OG Covid was 100% fatal

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Anonymous #3 2d

You keep saying that Covid was always like the flu when the first few strains were far more deadly and travelled much quicker

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Anonymous #1 2d

as it’s been pointed out, the flu can kill people. That doesn’t mean we force everyone to be vaccinated for it

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Anonymous #1 2d

The flu is and always has been extremely contagious BTW

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Anonymous #3 2d

Can you read? I said that the first few strains were WORSE than the flu. That’s why they mandated vaccines when it was at its worst. When Covid became less dangerous for the average person, they got rid of the mandates. If the left were actually obsessed with vaccine mandates as you say, they would have kept the mandates for Covid through the entirety of Biden’s term and even installed one for the flu. But they haven’t, because they’re not actually obsessed with mandates.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Op literally just said that they would support forcing people to get the flu shot, there actually are people on the left (employers) who do require their employees to get the Covid shots and boosters. “People on the left” isn’t just referring to people in government lol, if this is your only point it’s weak at best and moot at worst

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Anonymous #3 2d

You’re conveniently omitting the part where OP said they supported the mandate only “for people working with high risk groups.” You’re also assuming all people who are on the left subscribe to the exact same incorrect opinion you’ve attached to OP. But sure, I’m the one with the weak points.

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Anonymous #1 2d

So supporting enforcing a vaccine mandate…. Something that is widely known to be associated left wing ideology. I’m just keeping up with the trends

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Anonymous #1 2d

Feeling like a winner this AM

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Anonymous #3 2d

Awe I’m glad I could make you feel so special ❤️

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Anonymous #1 1d

honestly just happy i could educate you since you didn’t know the left is pro vaccine mandates

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Anonymous #3 1d

I feel so educated 🥰 you’ve motivated me to start reading up on the other very real stuff I don’t know about, like chem trails and the gender cult

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Anonymous #1 1d

Yay

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Anonymous #3 1d

You know what has negative health impacts? Getting COVID. Especially if you’re immunocompromised and got it because some dipshit didn’t want to get vaccinated. Also, you know the flu is very dangerous if you aren’t vaccinated for it right? Ever heard of the Spanish flu? Killed 25 million people or so? You think the flu isn’t bad because we all get vaccinated for it. Fucking joke of a political ideology. “It’s muh personal right to smear typhoid-infected feces everywhere. Freedoooommmmm”

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Anonymous #4 1d

We legally mandate that people wear seatbelts, and that largely only impacts us. Why should we not mandate public health in the same way? Not getting vaccinated doesn’t just hurt you, it can kill other people.

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Anonymous #4 1d

You know what else has negative health impacts? The Covid vaccine. Did you know that doctors tell you that some years you should or shouldn’t get the vaccine depending on how they alter it? Thank you

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Anonymous #3 1d

doctors advise on whether or not to get the flu* vaccine

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Anonymous #3 1d

Pretending that the Covid vaccine is even within orders of magnitude as dangerous as getting Covid unvaccinated is astoundingly ridiculous. Seatbelts occasionally hurt people, but they overwhelmingly save more lives which is why we mandate them. Doctors sometimes tell certain people with certain conditions not to get the flu shot, but that doesn’t apply for everybody.

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Anonymous #4 1d

The Covid vaccine has an extremely low rate of harm. Billions of doses have been given, if it was anywhere near as dangerous as hysterical antivaxxers say, the impact would be well documented and antivaxxers would sieze upon actual data which supported their worldview. If you cared about listening to doctors, you would know the overwhelming recommendation is that the people should get vaccinated. But you don’t care what professionals acrually say, and neither do other anti-vaxxers.

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Anonymous #4 1d

How the fuck have we reached a world where vaccines are being fearmongered and are politically contentious. We eradicated smallpox. We nearly eradicated polio and measles. Yellow fever isn’t making orphans in American cities. Influenza is something we have reduced in severity so much that people aren’t even scared of it anymore.

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Anonymous #4 1d

And we are throwing that all away for fuckin what? Because cherry picked anecdotes make you think bringing back iron lungs is worth it??? Because it’s my God-given right to cough covid onto someone else’s immunocompromised grandma? Fuckin hell man how are we conserving endangered viruses with more vigor than elephants.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I’m not an anti vaxxer im just against the government forcing vaccines on everyone

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Anonymous #3 1d

So why are you downplaying the severity of getting Covid and inflating the danger of Covid vaccines?

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Anonymous #4 1d

Because covid is not dangerous for the vast majority of people, many don’t even know when they have it. And because serious adverse effects have been shown to occur from the vaccine, with more information still coming out

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Anonymous #3 1d

Wow it’s almost like after people get vaccinated the symptoms aren’t nearly as bad if you catch Covid. You’re notably leaving out that the rate of those serious adverse side affects is way way lower than the rate of serious harm from getting COVID. Again, this is like if I started ranting about all those people who were hurt by seatbelts or airbags while ignoring all the people who didn’t die in car accidents because of them.

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Anonymous #4 1d

If you’re so invested in these complex immunological studies and meta-analyses about vaccine safety, maybe you’d listen to the recommendations from the experts that do them? But you don’t, because all you care about is cherry picking stuff that supports your biases, while refusing to look at the overall statistics which show that the Covid vaccine has helped way way way more people than it has harmed

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Anonymous #4 1d

The mortality rate of covid has always been low… the vast majority are not “seriously harmed” by covid. if there are people who have been seriously harmed by the vaccine and more information is still coming out about it, let’s not force everyone in the country to get it. Simple

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Anonymous #3 1d

And you think more information isn’t coming out about the impacts of long covid on people who didn’t die? Still a fucking clown ass worldview. “We still don’t know the full health impacts of seatbelts, people shouldn’t have to use them.” Covid vaccination demonstrably reduces the death rates. If the harm from vaccines was statistically notable enough to outweigh that it would show up in the statistics very quickly. But yeah no keep being afraid of seatbelts

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Anonymous #4 1d

You have to drop the seatbelt analogy😂 putting a seatbelt on is not the same thing as putting chemicals into your body where the impacts are still unknown and being studied

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Anonymous #4 1d

Oh do u think the media is completely honest and always has been forthcoming about Covid

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Anonymous #3 1d

Ooooo chemicals. Scary word. Very scientific to just vaguely say “chemicals” because nobody knows what mRNA actually is. What about the dihydrogen monoxide that’s scary sounding too.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Hey valiant effort, thanks for playing

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Anonymous #4 1d

Guys I just learned that seatbelts are also made of chemicals and so is orange juice I’m sobbing. mRNA vaccines actually have a lot of research into their scientific efficacy it’s very fascinating and is frankly a world-changing breakthrough in vaccine technology but noooo it’s spooky because chemicals

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Anonymous #4 1d

Do you put seatbelts into your body? I’m lol

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Anonymous #4 1d

The Covid vaccine does also have several risk factors that are still being studied, including being linked to serious heart diseases. Until we can fully trust them, let’s not force everyone person in our country to inject ourself with it. Over a disease that has virtually no lasting impact to the majority. Thank you all

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Anonymous #3 1d

Oh so the risk of heart disease after Covid vaccination is significant? Yongyeon Choi et al. is a meta analysis of 33 studies which found that the risk of myopericarditis heart disease after Covid infection was 42 times higher than than the risk from vaccination. You can’t say that the vaccine impact is important but the 42 times higher rate isn’t. Cherry picking.

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Anonymous #4 1d

It’s almost like viruses are in fact also chemicals and ones which demonstrably do more harm. That’s the entire reason we have fucking vaccines. They’re chemicals which cause us not to be hurt by the worse pathogenic chemicals.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I’m once again saying that until there is not a risk, let’s not force everyone to get it. There are several heart conditions linked to the Covid vaccine btw

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Anonymous #3 1d

I can recognize that we disagree on whether ie not everyone needs to get vaccinated. I don’t think your position is okay because I think it kills people. However, what’s more important to me is that you stop fucking up the science. So please, just look at the statistics of health complications from COVID vs from vaccines.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Covid is much more dangerous and you don’t seem to realize that. People with existing anti-vax agendas pretend the risk from vaccines is much higher and downplay the very real dangers from getting it when unvaccinated. That rhetoric has killed people. If the covid vaccines didn’t do much more good than harm, epidemiological research would show such and experts wouldn’t be promoting them. Please just read some studies. I genuinely wish you the best. Stay safe.

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