Anonymous #1 1d

The solution is not “fuck them poor people let them starve in their own country” you have to make it so life in their own countries is better so they aren’t as desperate to come here

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Anonymous #1 1d

That’s 100% irrelevant. Increasing immigration causes wages To go down. THATS the topic. The topic is NOT what caused immigration. Please liberals stay on topic FOR ONCE

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Anonymous #1 1d

can you stay on topic? All we are talking about is how increasing immigration reduces wages. If you can’t stay on topic and not commit logical fallacies, please stops talking.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Also, is it up to my country to take care of my people or foreigners? Spoiler: my people 😜

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Anonymous OP 1d

I’m not a liberal I’m a socialist. It is up to my country to take care of needy people in other countries on a basic humanistic level, but also because our country fucked them up in the first place. America is why Guatemala, El Salvador, and Cuba have people desperately leaving the country. Just like how Britain is why Ireland was devastated in the 1870s.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Immigration can cause wages to go down. This is especially true with illegal immigrants. They are usually desperate, and the threat of deportation means they don’t want to rock the boat. Hence they are less likely to report labor abuses and are less likely to be unionized. This is why Cesar Chavez, a staunch advocate for labor rights of legal immigrants, was against illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants would be strikebreakers.

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Anonymous #1 1d

People will try to come. If you cut off legal immigration completely, then the illegal immigrants are even more desperate. Studies in Alabama have looked at the impact of increased immigration on communities who rely on chicken factories. Wages went down in the factories, due to immigrants being willing to work for less and not being unionized. But jobs increased outside of the chicken industry because of more local consumers.

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Anonymous #1 1d

So, how do you combat immigrants being willing to work for less? Well, the government can mandate and strictly enforce wage standards. You could have mandatory union membership within those industries. You can harshly punish companies who commit labor violations. And you can increase the quality of life in their home countries so immigrants are less desperate to come here (fewer illegal immigrants, likely fewer immigrants as a whole)

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Anonymous #1 1d

Or, you just don’t let them in. How do you not pick the LITERALLY easiest option you imbecile

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Anonymous OP 1d

Did you read? If you make all immigration illegal then you just have an underground of illegal immigrants desperate for work who will work for pennies and not report any abuse or human trafficking for fear of being deported.

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