US Politics on Sidechat | “Cultural Marxism!” mfs genuinely think Jews manufactured the culture war to make everyone gay and brown, which to them is more believable than the idea the wealthy elites propagandized them to hate minorities so the working class can’t unite.

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US Politics 19h

“Cultural Marxism!” mfs genuinely think Jews manufactured the culture war to make everyone gay and brown, which to them is more believable than the idea the wealthy elites propagandized them to hate minorities so the working class can’t unite.

Anonymous 19h

To be fair to them, elites propagandizing like that has never happened before if you ignore the aftermath of Bacon’s rebellion, or the fugitive slave act, or basically everything surrounding the civil rights movement, or the New Deal excluding people of color, or the end of reconstruction, or

Anonymous 15h

The elite by and large love mass migration, it’s cheap labor for them and by its very nature makes labor more unorganized (Amazon literally created more diversity at warehouses to weaken unionization)

Anonymous 14h

Thats not at all what the term means

Anonymous

#3 14h

What does it mean then

Anonymous

#2 14h

It’s only cheap labor because of the system they designed that allows them to underpay people and then go “hey white worker, look at that foreign guy, he’s stealing your job”

Anonymous

#1 14h

You can hate the billionaire bringing in slave labor and you can hate the foreigner willing to undercut you lol, the positions aren’t antithetical to each other

Anonymous

#2 14h

“Willing to undercut you” is when you *checks notes* take a job I guess

Anonymous

#1 14h

“Is willing to work for slave wages and conditions because even working for pennies on the dollar, he’s making 3x more than he would in the shithole he came from”

Anonymous

#2 14h

Okay so it seems like you’re making some assumptions there, but I do just want to ask, are you saying you hate people for wanting a better life and going somewhere else to pursue it? Because that’s what it seems like you’re saying.

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Anonymous

#1 14h

When the self interest of the foreigner comes into conflict with the self interest of my countrymen, obviously I side with my countrymen. They want a better life, but so do we.

Anonymous

#2 14h

…so you should be working with them to get better conditions, right?

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Anonymous

#1 14h

Because them having a better life and you having a better life are very much not contradictory

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Anonymous

#1 14h

There is a reason why anti-immigration was a traditionally left-wing position. Foreigners devalue American labor, are willing to work under worse conditions, and serve as scab labor to weaken unions. Their “better life” comes directly at the expense of Americans.

Anonymous

#2 14h

“Foreign labor is used to undercut domestic labor” “Yeah because of a legal structure that allows for that to happen, so we should get rid of that right?” “No we just shouldn’t let foreigners in”

Anonymous

#1 14h

This conversation as I understand it

Anonymous

#1 14h

“If we just have enough laws, everyone on earth will be able to come to America and we will all be able to live in harmony and everyone will get what they want” vs “the elite shouldn’t be allowed to undercut American labor and sell out the American people”. Which one sounds more realistic to you.

Anonymous

#2 14h

What does that even mean? And by “the elite shouldn’t be allowed to undercut American labor” do you mean laws that prevent them from doing that or do you mean keeping foreigners out?

Anonymous

#1 14h

Both lmao, they shouldn’t be allowed to ship American jobs overseas to their slaves, and they shouldn’t be allowed to import their slaves here. The very presence of the foreigner in America devalues American labor, as he increases the supply of available labor.

Anonymous

#1 14h

Culturally Marxist ideologies take the oppressor/oppressed framework of Marxist economics and apply it to social issues. They swap capitalists oppressing workers for dominant cultural groups oppressing marginalized ones. They also tend to have a bad habit of ignoring individual agency and forcing facts to fit a predetermined story rather than following the evidence.

Anonymous

#3 13h

I’m talking about the right wing conspiracy theory gang